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Teske's Tidbits (5/1/08) The One About Frost

For growers and gardeners across central New York we were in dangerous territory the last few days. Wednesday morning Syracuse was 33 and this morning we were 28, just one degree off the record for the day.  With all the warm weather the last few weeks trees and plants across the region are in bloom well ahead of schedule.  In my yard there is a Magnolia Tree that has already bloomed and is finished for the season.  Some lilacs are about to do the same.  I was on the radio with garden expert Terry Ettinger last weekend and he told me that in terms of foliage/flowering we are about 2 weeks ahead of schedule.

 

The problem, as we’ve seen the past few days, is we are still susceptible to frost.  The average date for the last frost in Syracuse is April 29 but the last two Mays temperatures have dropped into the mid 30s at the airport in early May which means that outlying areas most certainly touched 32. During those years I know apple growers were on pins and needles as they tried to protect their tender fruit blossoms. In 2005, the low in Syracuse reached 30 on May 13th. The bottom line is we shouldn’t be surprised by the frost the last couple of days.

 

So while you were working in the yard the last two weekends we hope you stuck to raking, trimming and mowing and resisted the urge to plant anything but hearty plants. There are a couple of rules of thumb I’ve heard.  One is to wait until Mother’s Day and the other is to wait until the Oak leaves come out.

 

Now some loose ends to tie up for April.  The cool spell the last couple of days knocked us down and we ended up as the 3rd warmest April on record.  And April will end up almost normal for precipitation. We were nearly 2” behind heading into last weekend but over an inch of rain Saturday evening and the steady rain Monday brought us back up.

 

Some random tidbits….all that snow on the ground in Caribou that I talked about last month has melted and now the flooding is happening.  In nearby Fort Kent the St. John River is at a record flood stage. On the opposite side of things, the fire danger is high in the southwest United States. Yesterday afternoon I saw that Pueblo, Colorado had a relative humidity of 4%!

Published Thursday, May 01, 2008 11:33 AM by Jim Teske

Comments

 

Sal said:

Im a Donkey!!!!
May 1, 2008 5:47 PM
 

Ryan said:

Hey Teske.  Here is a link to the flooding you were talking about.

http://www.accuweather.com/news-story.asp?partner=accuweather&traveler=0&article=2
May 1, 2008 5:49 PM
 

wcbb321 said:

Dave, I have a quick question.  It was 35 degrees here yesterday morning, yet it was snowing out.  Does the snow have the same effect on plants as frost or is the temperature the only thing that matters ?
May 1, 2008 9:53 PM
 

wcbb321 said:

Sorry, I meant to say Jim in my last note, not Dave.  oops :-)
May 1, 2008 9:54 PM
 

Jim Teske said:

wcbb321,

I'm not 100% sure about the impacts of snow on plants but I'm guessing that Wednesday's snow was not as meaningful as the cold Thursday morning.  

Jim
May 2, 2008 11:10 AM
 

Bonnie said:

Here's an interesting piece of weather history for those of you who may remember.  It was 25 years ago this evening the a tornado hit Phoenix and took the roof off Wickes Lumber, and also twin tornadoes hit Boonville.  I believe one of them was actuall a F3 tornado.
May 2, 2008 8:07 PM
 

bgraduate said:

Jim-

Big graduation party next saturday (5/10), whats the weather shaping up for that day so far? Thanks for the help

-B
May 3, 2008 12:06 PM
 

Jim Teske said:

bgraduate,

I see in our midday Sunday forecast we have dry weather for next Saturday but a lot hinges on a storm system headed toward the eastern half of the country late next week. I noticed that most of the computer guidance that Mark looked at yesterday had that system staying to our south.  Today they are farther north with this system which implies some rain for us late in the week.  We'll see how that impacts the forecast Mark posts later.  My guess is that he will have to put some showers in for Thursday and Friday.  Not sure about Saturday.

Jim
May 4, 2008 1:05 PM
 

Paul said:

Hey Jim.  Why have you changed the Mother's Day forecast three times now?  The models are showing very little rain all week and you keep discussing showers each day here. Lets just pick a forecast and stick to it
May 6, 2008 7:03 AM
 

docbud said:

Paul--

A lot of weather folks change forecasts when more info becomes available.

If they leave the forecast as it was and the weather is different, you'd be crying because they didn't update their forecast.

Geez.

May 6, 2008 8:52 AM
 

Paul said:

Hey docbud.  Dont be a Donkey.
May 6, 2008 8:58 PM
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