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Will It Rain This Weekend?

It has been a remarkable stretch of weather this week across central New York. High pressure down at the ground and aloft built into the Northeast midweek and it is entrenched over us.  Think of it as a big roadblock in the atmosphere;it's holding back all comers at this point.

Our biggest point of contention this week was whether we would get any rain in here by the end of the week.  We knew we would be dealing with a storm in the upper atmopshere moving through middle part of the country at this point but there were questions as to how it would interact with high pressure here in the East. Would it A) weaken and move through the Northeast or would it B) be shunted south down toward the Virginias and Carolinas?  The computer models that showed each of these scenarios held their ground all week.  As of today (Friday) the computer model favoring scenario A (the GFS) has blinked and sided with the farther south solution.  We kept the shower in for Sunday afternoon but mainly to cover any showers that try to sneak into the Finger Lakes.  Elsewhere across central New York I think there odds are good that the weekend will stay dry.

I am a bit surprised by how quickly we warmed up this week. Being well above normal is no shock but to get into the upper 70s I would have figured we would have needed more wind than we've had. One thing I noticed is that the computer models did a poor job earlier in the week of forecasting the temperatures at 5,000 feet for the end of the week. This time of year that level is key if you are going to forecast high temperatures on a sunny day. On those types of days the air in the lower 5,000 feet of the atmosphere is usually well 'mixed' That means air near the surface rises and is replaced by air aloft. As the air aloft sinks it warms at a set rate. If it's coming from 5,000 ft it will warm by 13c. Those temperatures aloft were off by 3 or 4 degrees C which is why 72 degrees turned into 78 on Thursday.  If a previous post about Accu-Weather forecasting 78 for Friday is true I say kudos to them.

Have a good weekend!

Jim

 

Published Friday, April 18, 2008 9:11 PM by Jim Teske

Comments

 

Paul Cardinali said:

It's hard to believe but from April 19th to April 21st, 1983 Fulton area received nearly a foot of snow and several school districts had one of there latest snow days.  In fact for the 1982-83 seasons this was one of the largest snow events!  
April 19, 2008 7:26 AM
 

Kathy said:

Wow, this weather is so awesome, I can't imagine seeing any snow again this season.  But.....you never know!  I remember Mother's Day, 1997, when my tulips were bent over on the ground from the heavy snow!  But enough about that!  This week has been the best, especially if you had work to do outside, which I did.  What a gift this has been for us in central NY.  And the best part is, next week looks to be just as nice.  Kudos to NC9 for getting us through this weird winter and keeping us informed.  You guys are the best!

By the way, I hope it doesn't rain too soon.  I'm not ready to start mowing the lawn yet! :)
April 19, 2008 10:48 AM
 

GSB Snowman said:

I had to cut the lawn today as it was getting pretty high.  By far one of my favorite scents of Spring is the smell of the grass being cut for the first time.  86 degrees as I type, gotta love it!  

What a great week for all of the kids and teachers to have off for spring break.
April 19, 2008 2:51 PM
 

Alan said:

I'm with you Kathy, I've done more work out in the cold than I care to remember. This warm weather is GREAT GREAT GREAT!!!
April 19, 2008 6:01 PM
 

wcbb321 said:

This weather is really freaky... in a good way though.  85 Degrees in the middle of April can really put you in a good mood.  
I know most of you don't want to hear what I'm about to say because you're enjoying the weather, but as far as the rain goes, we are in desperate need of it.  All the brush fires in the area have shown that. I still have to admit, I'd like at least a few more sunny days before any rain rolls in.
April 19, 2008 11:54 PM
 

YYZ said:

Well I'm going to sleep now. Wake me up when September ends!
April 20, 2008 12:09 PM
 

YYZ said:

Ok, it was obvious that I was kidding.

BRING ON THE T-STORMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 20, 2008 12:11 PM
 

Bonnie said:

Okay I arrived back from Florida last night, my first trip there ever.  I was SO looking forward to the 80s they typically have this time of year.  Unfortunately, the weather here was warmer for most of the week!!  The first 3 days I was there it was in the low 60s, and the first day was rainy.  Then it warmed up to the 70s, and didn't hit 80 until Friday.  I left on Saturday morning.  The forecasted temps there for this coming week were high 80s....grrrrr!!!

Anyway, I'm happy to be home and am sure glad to see these BEAUTIFUL temps here!!  Getting ready to get that pool open finally!!
April 21, 2008 7:37 AM
 

Jim Teske said:

Hello everyone,

I was busy taking advantage of the sunny dry weather to work in the yard this weekend so additonal posts until now. I have my mower ready but I my grass hasn't grown that much yet.  It's greened up quite a bit but it's not cut-able.  I think a little rain would go a long was to getting the grass to grow and even some of the leaves to pop.

We certainly in some rare territory with the warm weather.  We are now up to 5 days in a row with 70 degrees plus and we are very likely going to tack on two more days Tuesday and Wednesday which would push to 7 days.  Only 3 other times in the last 106 years of records have we had longer streaks:

8 Days    1990
8 Days    1942
9 Days    1957

In all those cases we got off to a warm start to summer with warmer than normal Junes then we tailed off the rest of the summer.  The overall temps for the whole summer were still above normal but the warmest month was June in all three cases.  The number of 90 degree days were not excessive 5, 9 and 6 days respectively.

Jim
April 21, 2008 8:18 PM
 

BX said:

With all this warm weather Im suprised there isnt more discussion of global warming.  Im interested to know if our prolonged stretch of warm weather is a result of or related to global warming?  The weather feels nice but it also raises concern for me.
April 22, 2008 11:08 AM
 

Kathy said:

Happy Earth Day!  My grass isn't quite ready to mow but I made sure the mowers were working this weekend.  I actually had to talk my aunt out of opening up her pool this weekend!  It was tempting, though!  I'm also wondering about global warming and this early long spell of warm weather.  Like BX, I think it's great but I'm concerned, too.
April 22, 2008 1:40 PM
 

wcbb321 said:

I think global warming is just a cycle the earth goes through, but that's just my own opinion. It only makes sense, right ?  
As far as temperatures go, I think our weather will become tropical like Florida, but it won't be for a few decadel... To me, that's nothing to worry about :-).  But for Florida, any warmer than it is, and they'll have a bit of a problem.
April 22, 2008 2:26 PM
 

wcbb321 said:

Jim, I know scientists say that the core of the jet stream has moved slightly north. And they believe our weather will start to change in about 20 to 30 years.  Is this strange or is it just natural global warming ?
April 22, 2008 2:30 PM
 

Michael B said:

Jim,I noticed on the other channel that they are forecasting a high temperature of only 57 degrees for next Tuesday. Are we going to have a prolonged spell of below temperatures?
April 22, 2008 7:27 PM
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