Woohoo!  Time to get my cross country skis out again!  I'm hoping the hills in Pompey get some decent accumulations - the ski areas around here need some "real" snow and I'd love to see just one big "stay inside" winter storm this year.  

Are we actually really going to get some snow that will add up? I sure hope so but I will believe it when I see it.I hope to see it.My knees usually tell me its coming but I think it is too early yet.My family likes to soak in our 104 degree hottub on major snowy nights.So since we have had so few to do that with this season we are hoping for a significant event.I have green patches in my lawn and I'm an avid icefisherman.I need snow and ice.Not rain and sluch.Thanks Mates.Friendliness is inexpensive,but good friends are worth thier weight in Gold!

How is this storm going to effect the east coast?  I will be driving to Boston on Tuesday and Wednesday.  

I was told many years ago by a weatherman who worked in different parts of the country that this area is one of the most difficult in the country to forecast. You have lake ontario and erie, throw in Atlantic moisture etc.  Has to be tough.

You said there will be lake effect south of the lake, does that mean that Liverpool will be okay?

Thanks,

Mike

Yeah, yeah, yeah.  Heard it several times before this year.   Storm warnings etc. etc. and everybody empties the store shelves and cancels everthing only to get a dusting to 2" of snow.  Losing confidence in forecasting.

Hello,
To all of you wanting snow to ride your snowmobiles on, come to Mexico, NY.....we have plenty! UGH!! I am sick of it! Is it Spring yet???

Too late to matter.  Winter 2008 is a total bust.  I'm ready for spring.

Dave in Auburn is right the forecasters here have a tough job and they do great work.  Hope we all get some decent snow from this and then bring on spring.

Ok I am going to make this statement before people jump at the channel 9 guys about not having faith in them etc take note that the NWS is making some of the same statements for snowfall as well so you can't just point blame at these guys.

Thank you Coffeeguy!  Here in Minetto,  we have had a ton of snow this winter.  I know some feel "cheated" this winter,  but perhaps it will be your time to get dumped on later or next year.  And if that happens,  NO complaining about TOO Much snow!  LOL!   I am excited about this storm....my Mother has had a terrible headache (sorry Mom), but she gets one before a big storm.  We'll have to wait and see!  Get excited about the weather here...CNY has some of the most interesting weather around.

Dave Eichorn and the team at channel 9 are as good as any national weather team.  I recall Dave talking on a Y94FM morning show about a coastal storm almost a week and a half before it hit.  This was back in the early 90's, which arguably was a lifetime ago in weather forecasting technology.  As I remember, that storm was everything Dave had predicted it would be.

If the weather team at Channel 9 doesn't get it right it is because the weather pattern was extremely too complex for any forecasting methods, which implies that the national weather service probably missed the forecast, too.

Too bad I won't be in town for this storm, as there is nothing more comforting than being inside the home watching the weather unfold.  Those who live in the sunbelt US don't know what they are missing.  Ha...

yerp.  eichorn and co are the best.  i check with wsyr-am, wrvo-fm, and the weather channel. the wsyr-tv guys hit it better than any other source.  my broadside to you who disbelieve is  not printable (at least on this family venue). acknowledge  greatness and move on.

ben dover, have you been looking for a long lost cousin?  eilene has wondered for e'er if she had a relative.  kent recall.

I just hate the thought of having to bend over and shovel all the white stuff. I'm ready for spring about now.

When and where will the lake effect set up Tuesday Night- Thursday?

8 PM update..  We shifted our snowfall accumulation map a bit from the Noon show. We took Ithaca, Cortland and Norwich out of the core of heaviest snow.  We were concerned about rain or sleet mixing in in those locations.  Here in Syracuse we think there may even be some rain too but here is why we still think 6-12" is a good bet. Tomorrow afternoon into the evening there will be a tremendous amount of lift going on above us.  This will cause the precipitation intensity to pick up.  That should cool the lower atmopshere enough to keep us mostly snow. Granted it's a close call but that's our 'gut' call.

Also, this will probably be a two (or better said 3) part storm.  We will get the initial burst of snow tomorrow afternoon then things may taper off a bit the first part of Tuesday night then some steady snow moves back in overnight. Between these 2 parts we think 6" seems reasonable on the low end by early Wednesday from Syracuse north. Part 3, of course, is lake effect and that will be the main concern later Wednesday into Wednesday night off the southeast end of Lake Ontario.  More details on this scenario in the next day or so. For now lets just focus in on parts 1 & 2.

As far as travel to Boston I would think from here east to Albany Tuesday afternoon it will be dicey as the snow picks up.  There should be some snow from Albany into the Berkshires Tuesday afternoon through Wednesday morning.  Not as heavy as here but still accumulating snow. After Wednesday morining most of the falling snow between here and Boston would be confined to CNY.

By the way, thanks for all the comments both pro and con.

Jim

Jim - the models are showing lake effect mainly off the south shore of the lake and towards the end it shows northern onondaga.  Why do you think 6-12'' is possible w/ lake effect that wont really impact syracuse area?  Also, shouldnt it be difficult for accumulations tommorrow with temps in the mid 30's?

Jim - the models are showing lake effect mainly off the south shore of the lake and towards the end it shows northern onondaga.  Why do you think 6-12'' is possible w/ lake effect that wont really impact syracuse area?  Also, shouldnt it be difficult for accumulations tommorrow with temps in the mid 30's?

I really have to admit something here and I usually never bash anyone's forecast but when something stairs you in the face and everyone elses acknowledges the facts and you don't, well then there's something wrong!!  Your 6:00PM broadcast was elementary at best with your in house model doing an extremely poor job displaying the intensity that people driving around CNY tomorrow evening will be experiencing.   Your in house model didn't pick up the CSI banding potential tomorrow evening continuing for several hours into the night.  You have at your disposal the GFS,EURO,UKMET,NGM,HIRESWRF,OPNAM,EXPNAM and you display an in house model that has been wrong countlesss times this year already.  You have stations all around you going much higher wrt accumulations including WKTV, Utica- most if not all Rochester stations and most of all the National Weather Service who has put out all kinds of warnings that you guys never seem to pass on to your viewers.  Tomorrow evening has the potential to be one of the worst evenings we've seen in a long time.  Temp dropping, potentially heavy snow with CSI banding signatures, and fierce N to NW winds and your in-house model shows SNIZZLE, What gives?  You actually think that 6-12" will fall in the DACKS.

I had to say this because I've been watching you guys for quite some time now and you guys are great but tonights forecast was downright HORRIBLE to say the least.  You have an obligation to inform your viewers of the potential hazards they might face, and I believe you have not done that in the least!!  We won't even go into the Lake enhancement potential on Wednesday that could drop a half a foot if not more.  One other thing before I go, Where are you getting the potential for rain in the syracuse from?  This will be an all snow event north of the Southern Tier with absolutley no rain involved.  Maybe IP but rain, come on, Please throw that model out!!  I'll have to say that your competition did a much better job this evening, WSTM!!  10-15" is a much better forecast than 6-12" for this particular event..  Good Luck cause your going to need it after this monumental bust of a forecast!!

I must agree with OSU MET STUDENT. Almost every model has taken the storm far enough to the south to give us here in CNY no rain. Tomorrow night is going to be just down right horrible with blizzard like conditions. Your 6-12" accumulation is alright if you go with the high end but a better accumulation to put out there would be 8-16". Keeping rain in the forecast is ridiculous for Syracuse north. I am definitely not one to disagree with the pros, especially you guys, but I think this forecast is totally wrong. I think me and OSU MET STUDENT have been on the same page ever since the models brought the storm system south. We should be making the forecasts for this storm.

Have to catch a 0900 flight from Syr Wed.  My dilema is whether to leave Tues evening and stay at Airport inn or take my chances and leave for airport early (5 or6 am).  I'm driving from Rome and will take Thruway.  Any suggestions?  Of course the real question is what are the chances of flight cancellations?
Chas--Rome

Zach and osu u should find new hobbies (losers )

Me am smart.  Me see ring around moon.  Me say snow.  Me never talk to girls.

Time to fire up the Johnny Popper, Jag Z1, F6LXR. Oh did I forget to mention the wood for the fireplace and hot co-co? Let's hope we are on the 12" side of things!

i hope we get pounded, every one keep their fingers crossed, i think winter is finally here!!

to OSU MET STUDENT
I have notice that your forecasts have been quite accurate this year, there was a storm in Dec that you were very right on and  channel 9 did not get that one right.
I live in Cortland, what do you see us getting here,  any  rain  or  just snow.

wbng  in  binghamton  has  the  rain  snow  line  to  the  south  of  Binghamton  in  Pennsylvania....

The snow in Auburn around 5:30am bring it on I love it.

light snow here in oswego... we always get the heavey stuff.... we dont want it....

Update at 8 AM Tuesday - Light snow has arrived in CNY with the potential for some heavier snow possible later today.  There's been some discussion above about why we didn't go higher with snow totals.  Here's why.

Yes, there are a lot of dynamics coming together later today and tonight that would cause some heavy snow.  We do have a storm track just south of New York State, putting us in the sweet spot for getting big time snows.  Storm impact through early afternoon will be minimal.  We should have 2 to 4 inches accumulation by evening.

From about 4 or 5 this evening, through 11 or 12 tonight, is when the dynamics will come together for some heavier snow.  Surface temperatures will be in the upper 20s to near 30, so snow ratios won't be huge.  After midnight the snow will not end, but we'll be getting out of the time of heavy snow, as it shifts to our east with the main storm.  In fact, truth be told, I see enough moisture and energy lingering into Wednesday that we could still get some moderate snow at times into Wednesday.  I'm thinking 6-12" of snow by the time we get up Wednesday morning.  

The wind will be picking up tomorrow causing blowing snow problems.  Temperatures will be dropping tomorrow too, and we'll see lake enhanced snow, not pure lake effect through tomorrow.  Later Wednesday afternoon, conditions will become favorable for localized areas of heavier snow off of Lake Ontario, which will continue into Thursday.  During the day Wednesday I can see another 3-6" of snow, which would put storm totals by sunset Wednesday in the 9-18" range.

It's been 24 hours that I've been closely watching this storm.  I've seen the predicted precipitation drop from more than 1.5" to just over 1" from today to 7 PM Wednesday.  That's the wettest solution.  Other information paints just over .75 inches of liquid equivalent.  Those numbers would put us in our expectancies.

If you want more detailed weather info, keep reading.  If you just want a basic breakdown, the above should do it for you.

For people more into weather and reading the maps, this system never closes off at 500mb and just barely pinches off at 700mb.  This thing is on the move.  To go big in the totals department, I personally would like to see more indication of this thing going negative tilt.  CSI was mentioned in an earlier post.  That's a type of instability that can lead to localized bands of heavy snow.  Our period for that is this evening, but the strongest 700mb frontogenesis moves into the Adirondacks, with a lighter zone of frontogenesis trailing back across central New York into tonight.  Thus heavy snow early, tapering off some, but never goes away entirely.

Thirdly, one thing that's making me a little nervous now is the entire radar representation of the storm this morning.  Not very impressive yet.  But I'm relying on the dynamics to do their trick.

Heavy rain and thunder is sweeping east through the Carolinas this morning, with a little dry slot shooting up through western PA.  That will support the minimal storm impact through mid afternoon.  All the energy coming together to produce our storm is just north and west of the low center across Ohio, Indiana and southern Michigan.  That's the thing to watch as it heads our way later today and early tonight.

Back to work now.  More updates through the morning.

Dave

Dave, Where do you think the lake effect will set up tomorrow? I live near Auburn.

I get the feeling Shelly's question will be pretty common with a lot of you.  I didn't really explain this too well above.  The snow tomorrow, by being lake enhanced, won't concentrate into localized bands of heavy snow like we often see with lake effect.  The atmosphere won't set itself up for that until later tomorrow.  Instead, through the day Wednesday we'll see  snow across all of central New York.

After 3 or 4 PM, more localized lake effect snow will set up.  Right now, that would tend to favor Wayne, northern Cayuga, Onondaga and Madison counties.  Maybe even southern Oswego county.  That lake effect should stay in that general area into early Thursday.

We'll have more on the lake effect later today.  We've got to deal with the heavy snow this evening first.

-Dave

Thank you!

You had mentioned that the radar representation this morning  was making you a little nervous.  Are you thinking about changing your forcast for snowfall totals?  Thanks....Oh BTW: what do you think the weather will be like tomorrow morning?  You had said heavy now will taper after midnight.  Will conditions be bad tomorrow in the morning?

It looks on the radar that rain may be moving in shortly(green color).  Are you still expecting rain to mix in?  Thanks.

Man every website has different snow accumulations. Dave said a good 9-18 inches could fall where as News 10 now says 6-9 inches. That;s quiet a difference in snow total ranges.

I'm liking the way all the slots or clearings are starting to fill in now and pretty fast at that.  That clearing around the Ohio/W. Pa border is filling in nicely now : )  I'm curious as to why Binghamton and Albany just have advisories?  Is it because the temps are expected to be warmer giving them more of a mix of precip?

That said I appreciate all the hard work you guys put into your forecasts.  I understand that you probably can't just put out there what you would like to sometimes and have to wait it out until you are more certain.  One thing I think TV 9 does great is keeping us updated throughout the storms by breaking in with weather updates as it's happening.  Keep up the good work!!!

By the way the time on your blog is off.  I posted my comment at 9:50am and it shows it was posted at 8:50am-just thought you might lie to know.  Thanks

Update at 9:55 AM - I'm sticking to the totals we're going with.  New information in supports it.  The snow will break up a bit through the afternoon as there is a dry slot moving into western PA.  

We still do not think rain will mix in.  It's snow all the way down to western PA and the track may be heading a bit more south, ensuring snow for us.

There will be snow and wind causing all sorts of problems tomorrow.  At least 3 to 6 inches of new snow tomorrow with blowing snow, and wind chills right around zero.  Compared to yesterday's sun, little wind and 40 degrees, tomorrow will be a wicked slap in the face.

-Dave

Dave - I have to travel from Syracuse to Ft Drum on Thursday. Do you foresee any lake effect for the Tug Hill that day?

Rico,  the lake effect will be in the Syracuse area Thursday morning, but you should drive out of it as you head north.

if look carefully, theres a storm system creeping up the coast ; with above freezing temps, i see probably 6 inches by tomorrow at 6pm .  if that coastal turns inland we may see another 6 inches by thursday morning . the intensity of the midwest storm isnt as great as predicted but our lake effect will give us a foot by thursday befor drying out and slowly warming next week in the 40s and 50s next week.

Sounds like that teacher is searching for a snowday.  Did the schools not just have a week off.  Join the real world lady!  We have to drag our butts to work uphill both ways in rain, sleet, and snow.  

I agree with Ben on this one.  Inconspicuousteacher should get out of bed like the rest of us working stiffs and do something productive.  That is the problem with tenured teachers.

very funny Matt and Phil...

These Matt and Phil guys are pretty cool.  Before Dave get upset for straying off the topic here is a weather update.  As I look out the window at my radar (Mother Nature)  I think it is safe to say that it is snowing.  Unless we have had a volcanic eruption and it is white ash falling from the sky.  

It's 2pm and the temp has dropped enough the roads are starting to get slick and snow covered in Auburn.

Yeah, I know what you are saying about the roads.  The sidewalks are slippery as well.  I live is Owasco, stepped out onto the sidewalk and fell right on my "behind".  

The same is happening here in the Fremont area just outside of East Syracuse.  The side roads are starting to cover with wet snow and the main roads such as Fremont Rd has a slushy mix on it after that pretty good burst of snow that just came through.  Could be a slow ride home for most.  Hopefully a safe ride home for everyone.

Took my beagle for a walk and almost lost him when a car slid over the curb. Side roads in canastota are terrible

What the weather be like for my drive from Rome to SYR airport Wed between 6-7 AM??

Good old fashion snowstorm--gotta love it!!!!!!!:)

Whyat are all you guys weathermen or something. just shut-up and let these people do there jobs! (OSU)

Looking at the NWS forecast discussion updated at 2:30 pm.....NWS is saying when this storm turns cyclonic this evening as the low deepens off to our east, the worst part of the storm will occur from tonight into early Wednesday morning. Storm Team at mid day web update seems to dismiss this. What is the real deal here. I rely more and more on the NWS than Storm Team, especially since Storm Team has blown it for most of this winter. Storm Team and OSU Met Student...any comments on the NWS Forecasting for tonight?

Why has the winter storm warning for Onondaga vanished (according to weather.com)? Is the threat gone?

This makes me sad :(

Mike, the only website you need to look at for this type of info is the NWS as they issue the warnings....Winter Storm Warning until Wednesday evening.

4pm clay/lvpl just north of buckley rd 4" and real wet

Not near a TV,  has this storm gone by already?  5pm in Auburn not a flake coming down.

Not near a TV,  has this storm gone by already?  5pm in Auburn not a flake coming down.

Should we expect big amounts overnight tonight? Say, before 6am around the north shore of Oneida Lake? If we should expect more than around 6" more between now and then, I'll have to get up early and fire up the snowblower.

Big amounts should be expected with 6" being the general overnight snowfall across CNY.

Thanks zach, it was very strange, it was like someone shut off a faucet in Auburn, just wham quit snowing.

do not listen to zach and osu, they have no idea what they are talking about. And u know I am right so just SHUT_UP!

6.5" of snow here in Liverpool as of 6 PM.

The snow report above was a storm total, not a season total. The season is 91.5" (in Liverpool).

YEAH THANKS ALOT (FOR NOTHING) ZACH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Question: If the national weather service releases a report at 5PM and says snowfall data is missing then releases a report at midnight saying that there was 4" of snow that day, did the 4" of snow happen after 5PM or durring the entire day?

Criticizing the forecast before the event has ocurred is like walking into the diner and telling all the customers how lousy the blue plate special is before you've tried it ( or smelled it for that matter). If you can make a Better forecast them do it and we can compare yours to the house and keep score. Show me your brass... If you don't agree with the stormeams party line then post your forecast AND the supporting evidence and take your kudos or lumps with the real meteorologists.

idk i hope there is no school tomarro my skewl has had like no snow days :-(

practice what you preach @!#%^!!

I have got an idea lets sit around and talk about the weather like losers

SUNNY AND 85 DEGREES ON THURSDAY

eagles I totally agree with u everyone else listen to eagles!!

It looks to me llike syracuse will get a big break overnight.  There is a large "hole" in the radar where the snow seems to be breaking up.  Dave E talked about more snow this evening and talked about the snowstill down in pa was going to track our way but if you watch the radar, it looks like that snow to is breaking up.  So lets keep are fingers crossed and hope for only 2 inches tonight.  I highly doubt we will see anymore.  As far as the lake effect goes.  It still doent look impressive for syracuse area.  Maybe a few fluffy inches and thats about it.  As far as Liverpool getting 6.5'' from a differnt blogger?  Mahybe if you used a measuring stick that was broken.  We recieved just under 4 1/2 inches of wet condensed snow.Oh by the way.  To the irritating blogger named OSU Student.  Stay in school and stop using drugs.  You said channel 9's forecast was elementary.  Well, your forecast was rather amusing.  I appreciate when you log on and talk cause I get a good laugh out of it.  I think after your done w/ community college, maybe you can get a job working as a janitor at the news channel 9 bulding.  

I am in the army and I have done more in my life then u can even dream of!!

GO MARK!! STICK IT TO HIM

Eagles, thank you for all you do for us.

your very welcome!!

I AM SO STUPID WHAT WAS I THINKINK?

I am so sorry for being retarded

at least your honest

All of you are in my prayers that you all come home back to your loved ones.  I might sound like a 46 yr old wuss.  During the fall our men and woman came back from Iraq to the Auburn Armory, the city had a parade as their buses returned. My wife and I pride was so high for you we had tears in our eyes. Again than you.

Maybe if you don't want to talk about weather you shouldn't be in a WEATHER blog!

Maybe if you don't want to talk about weather you shouldn't be in a WEATHER blog!

yeah it sucks going to Iraq been there 3 times but coming and geting all the support that we do makes it worth it. SO THANK YOU

yeah it sucks going to Iraq been there 3 times but coming HOME and geting all the support that we do makes it worth it. SO THANK YOU

woops! hit enter 1 to many times

your = I like your shirt.

you're = you are = You're welcome, not your welcome.   At least you're honest, not at least your honest.

Eagles, just some grammar advice.  Also, thank you for supporting us and fighting for our freedom.  Everyone is entitled to their opinions/forecasts/suggestions/ideas.  That is what makes democracy (what you have fought for) so special.  But why use this right to slam other people on this blog?  What about respect of others?  Again, thank you for risking your life to help others gain their freedoms and keeping us safe.

YOU'RE right and I am sorry

and thank you

I have had sex with OSU Student

thats nice!

So anyway the weather out here in Georgetown is horrible. The Amish are having a hard time getting around in all this snow.

well, OSU 'student' was a joke. Man - even the guys here got it wrong (8-15"?) Try more like 4"! Just noticed the map for tonight mysteriously went from 4-8 to 1-4 rather quickly. What went wrong this time?

I LIKE MEN (IFEEL SO ASHAMED)

I live around Newark and the snow has pretty much quit since 6:00 news this evening.... Again, like others have said a storm that never really happend.  We had maybe 3" thats it.  I look out my window at 9:30 and its not doing much of anything. Look at a real radar maybe a inch or two coming over night.

http://www.intellicast.com/National/Radar/Current.aspx?location=USNY0124&enlarge=true

Another storm that never happened!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let the weatherman excuses flow.

Lets not forget , the computers models told them they were spot on for their forecast . They didn't want to say so to early. Guess what Dave you're wrong again we have as I wnt out and measured a little of 2.5 inches on the ground. And keeping with people keeping track of time it's 10:45pm Tuesday.  I live in the northen part of one of our local counties.  I glance at the radar provided by Ellen this storm is done.

Hey Sarah, lets see your forecast.  Give Dave and the channel 9 team a break.  It's called a forecast, the defintiion of which is "to estimate or calculate in advance."  Notice that it doesn't include the words "exact" or "flawless."  You are what is wrong with society.  Always looking to blame others.  I hope you feel better telling someone that they were wrong.  I'm sure it made your day.

You are right how wrong again, I live in Seneca county and we might have a couple inches and have had no more coimng down in the last few hours more than a summer time rain drizzle in snow. I too looked at the radar from a poster we will be lucky to get anymore snow that adds up. Great job WIXT.

I agree , let the excuses start now why the predictions were so far off.

 nothing more is coming when CW6 (channel 3) news at 10 doesn't lead off with the weather. I will hold off till they talk weather.  They say south of lake ontario a light spray of lake snow south of the lake through tomorrow..... Another storm bust.

I love you Keith

Keith , how long would you have your job if you were wrong so often?

I'm not arguing with anyone, I'm going to bed and get up in the morning knowing I don't have to clean up very much snow for myself or my kids.  Good night everyone.

I don't think we even need weatherman in NY because it always sucks. So all we need is a person to go on the news and say hey the weathers sucks have a great day.

YOUR ALL FULLL OF ***< go to coll for 4 years with a fully loaded science scedule as well as TV experiance.. then try and predict MOTHER NATURE, ha, ha, ha, try, please try, i live in madison county and we are getting hit HARD! roads are awful,

please stay safe

I don't think we even need weatherman in NY because it always sucks. So all we need is a person to go on the news and say hey the weathers sucks have a great day.

I don't think we even need weatherman in NY because it always sucks. So all we need is a person to go on the news and say hey the weathers sucks have a great day.

skitoggrob why don't you go hook up with Zach

I want me a cowboy!

I want me a cowboy!

Sarah, You sure do love to complain.  You are like a little kid who is upset that they have to go to school.  I would hate to be one of your kids and do something wrong...  it would be a miserable life full of paranoia.  

I love you Keithie baby

Yep, over-hyped, more doom and gloom forecasting that once again didn't pan out.  The sad thing is that many organizations cancelled evening activities even though the roads were in better shape than in the AM.  The power of hype.

I don't even think we broke 4" here.

This storm was hyped. I don't think I even got 3 inches where I live. The snow stopped around 5pm

We have 10 inches on the nose in utica, exactly what our guys said we would have. Still snowing steadily here. Can't believe the Cuse did not get at least the same.

You  are right Steve, It's always overhyped. The doom and gloom forecast that never
pans out has hurt my business a lot.
I don't even look at  the  7  day  forecast.  It  changes  every  6  hours.
The  best  forecast  is  to  look  out  your  window  each  day.

Well, all I can say is, it depends on where you live.  We got slammed here in Southern Onondaga County.  We had at least 10 inches in the F-P area by 6:00 this morning and it's still coming down.  And I'm glad they canceled evening activities around here last night- the roads were very slick and were still bad this morning!  Especially Rt. 20 going east -  until you got to the Madison County line, where the roads were much better - what's with that???

We ended up with 13 inches here in Westmoreland.OSU MET Guy...If you don't think the city of Syracuse can't handle 6.5" of snow without warning than you better start getting used to CNY weather.

if you're too crabby to handle the ever shifting CNY weather, then please do us all a favor and move south! I would rather be prepared for more snow and get less than head out onto terrible roads and be surprised and late! Why are these blogs being used to rip apart the meteorologists? Honestly, if you don't like the way they predict the weather for your area, then please go to college, get your own degree and predict it for yourself. Just stop visiting this website and posting nasty comments on the blogs, it's that simple. Play nice...