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Teske's Tidbits Bonus: The Spring Outlook

Our seasonal forecasts are really based on data we find in our climatological database for Syracuse, not the computer models we use for our shorter term forecasts.  What we do is look for unusual weather patterns from our current season then try to match them with past years that had a similar patters (colder, warmer, drier or wetter than normal stretches).  This winter, the weather pattern that may hold a key to our early Spring weather is a wet February.  Our liquid equivalent (rain and melted snow) for February 2008 is now about 4” and that already puts us into the top ten wettest Februarys on record. 

 

When looking at Springs that followed wet Februarys here is what we found.  8 out of the 10 Februarys we looked at ended up with below normal temperatures.  That’s a pretty strong statement.  The average snowfall in these colder than normal Marches was close to 30” which about a foot more than an average March.  Based on past numbers the cold weather could linger into April. After those wet Februarys 7 out of the 10 following Aprils were also below normal in temperature.

 

The other signal we used to make our Spring Forecast was the ongoing La Nina.  La Nina is colder than normal surface sea temperatures over the Equatorial Pacific, in particular the eastern Pacific Ocean.  The La Nina has been with us all winter and will likely linger through the Spring. 9 out of the 12 La Ninas years ended up with colder than normal Marches and the snowfall was similar too (27” vs 30”). The signal for April wasn’t as strong for La Ninas as it was with wet Februarys, with only 6 out of 12 years pointing toward below normal temperatures with a tendency for a bit more than the 4” average of snowfall.

 

In both cases, the La Nina and wet Februarys didn’t give us many clues for the month of May.  They basically split almost down the middle between warmer and colder than normal Mays.

 

There were other things we looked at like snowy Decembers and 60 degree warmth in January and none of those helped like wet Februarys. We’ll see how things pan out over the next few months but to be safe I’ll probably keep my snow tires on just a bit longer this year..

Published Friday, February 22, 2008 12:39 PM by Jim Teske

Comments

 

Bonnie said:

It almost seems like our winters are starting later around here but lasting longer the last few years!
February 22, 2008 12:08 PM
 

Sal said:

Sounds like it might be a safe bet that we'll have more snow on the ground for Easter than we did for Christmas.  
But isn't this all holding true to prediction back in October and November that indicated the two worst months for us would be December and March.  I think I remember hearing/reading that from a few weather sources last fall.  But just the same, I'm still glad it's the last week of Feb. and not the last week of Nov.
As always you guys are doing a great job in the weather dept.  Keep up the good work!
February 22, 2008 12:41 PM
 

Jim Teske said:

Sal,

That might be the case about snow on the ground for Easter.  It is very early this year (March 23).  One interesting thing I heard a few years ago (and I'll have to double check this) is that the warmest Easter in Syracuse occurred when it fell in March and the snowiest Easter happened in April.  Food for thought.

Jim
February 22, 2008 1:00 PM
 

NorthBayLight said:

Bring on that snow!!!!!

LET IT SNOW!!!
February 22, 2008 2:30 PM
 

mmecca said:

skiing was great today!!!!  Bring on the snow!!!!
February 22, 2008 3:39 PM
 

jon ch said:

im suprised you weathermen havent called for a nor'easter; its pretty close. lucky for us in onon. county itsa going around us. id like to hear from one of the meteoroligsts  and see what you think
February 22, 2008 3:48 PM
 

jon ch said:

im suprised you weathermen havent called for a nor'easter; its pretty close. lucky for us in onon. county itsa going around us. id like to hear from one of the meteoroligsts  and see what you think
February 22, 2008 3:48 PM
 

jon ch said:

im suprised you weathermen havent called for a nor'easter; its pretty close. lucky for us in onon. county itsa going around us. id like to hear from one of the meteoroligsts  and see what you think
February 22, 2008 3:48 PM
 

Zach said:

I'm also wondering about a big snowstorm the middle of this week. You do mention the possibility of a storm in your Weather Discussion on the weather homepage. Keep us posted here. Keep at it, you guys do a great job and don't deserve the beating you get on here.
February 22, 2008 6:57 PM
 

Jim Teske said:

Zach,

The interesting thing about Tuesday's system is that the models today seem to agree on a farther south solution than a day or two ago.  This certainly increases our odds for just snow.  We were reluctant to take out the mention of sleet and freezing rain because both the GFS and European models drive the freezing line at 5,000 feet up into Central New York.  Until we see signs of this line staying well to our south we are going to keep the mixed precipitation in. Plus it seems that every decent storm the last 2 months has ended up going over to mixed precipitation....

I'm off to do some skiing this weekend so I will be out of contact.  Have a great weekend.

Jim
February 22, 2008 7:24 PM
 

Shawn said:

Jon ch--Please do us all a favor and don't post anything anymore.  All you do is rip these guys and you sound like you are near 100 years old, so maybe you should just stop harassing these guys and take care of yourself

Looking foward to Tuesday, I see you guys dropped the temps.  

Have a great weekend!
February 22, 2008 9:18 PM
 

Charles said:

Hey we would all like it warmer, but we take what we get. Be nice if we could have three feet of snow and 60 degrees outside and not have the snow melt. The guys at channel 9 are the best! We all make some mistakes and they are trying to tell us what is going to happen 7 days from now.  So give them a break!
February 23, 2008 7:12 AM
 

YYZ said:

I knew there would be a snowy March!
February 23, 2008 4:08 PM
 

joe16 said:

The GFS 12UTC run today shows a pretty decent storm cranking out a pretty decent storm for the beginning of March (1-2 inches of precip).  This could be the starts of a brutal March.
February 23, 2008 4:29 PM
 

bubba said:

MMecca get to work
February 24, 2008 10:59 AM
 

Bob said:

Just heard and saw robins in the trees of my neighbors front yard. Bring on the spring!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 25, 2008 7:31 AM
 

jon ch said:

shawn, you cant make silk from a sows ear; so i guess you'll remain a sows ear for eternity. also, empty heads make the most noise; guess we cant shut you up. im signing out forever because the souless things like you exist. just remember one last diddy; you can put a tuxedo on a monkey, but its still a monkey. i officially retire from blogging; no need to be bashed  when i try to be honest and accurate.
February 25, 2008 11:26 AM
 

bill said:

i remember when my son was 2,  we drove up rt 11 in no particular hurry from binghamton to syracuse on easter sunday, march 31, 1985.  we stopped at the va hospital to visit my father-in-law.  the temp was uncomfortably warm.  i want to say 90 degrees, but that seems unlikely.  i remember that it was very warm, especially for the end of march...  as for the forecast for the next few days, wsyr radio's pasquale pagano says 4 - 8 inches.  kevin williams (wrvo-fm) says 12 - 18.  eichorn and co. say around 12.  let's see what drifts by...
February 25, 2008 3:42 PM
 

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