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This Weekend's Lake Effect

8:45 AM Friday 1/18/2008, posted by Dave Longley - Arctic air keeps piling southward.  It'll arrive here in stages.  One push of cooler air moved through this morning.  The next one arrives here midday Saturday.  The one Saturday may have a little light snow with it during the middle of tomorrow.  Then the party gets started.  Party if you're a snow-lover.

To get too specific would be fruitless right now, but here's a basic overview.  Winds are pretty southwesterly in the lower atmosphere through later Saturday, so if there is any lake effect snow, it would have to be east and northeast of Lake Ontario.  There doesn't look to be any contribution of moisture from the upper lakes yet, so overall, Saturday doesn't look that bad.

Saturday night the true arctic airmass arrives with 850 mb temperatures down to -20C over Lake Ontario.  This will make the atmosphere VERY unstable  and we should have snow with thunder and lightning straight east of Lake Ontario Sunday morning.  Winds in the lower atmosphere still look to be pretty west-southwesterly, so no linkage with the upper lakes is seen yet.  The upper level trough axis is still to our west, so that should ensure some heavy snow remaining north of Syracuse.

Midday Sunday, the upper trough is forecast to swing through, winds will veer to a more northwesterly direction, we get moisture contribution from the upper lakes, and we should have a band of intense snow east and southeast of Lake Ontario.  Preliminarily, this looks to be a big dump of snow for the Tug Hill from later Saturday night through Sunday.  This is assuming winds are westerly Sunday.  The air will certainly be cold.  The one negative factor we'll have to overcome is dry air in the lower atmosphere.  That's one thing we'll have to keep an eye on.

More later today and through the weekend.

-Dave Longley

Published Friday, January 18, 2008 8:45 AM by dlongley

Comments

 

Shawn said:

Thanks for the update Dave.  Hopefully here in SYR we can get some snow to get rid of all the mud and torn up grass from the damn snowplowers ;-)!

Look forward to your update
January 18, 2008 3:15 PM
 

Chris 2 said:

Hey Shawn.  When the weather warms back up tp th 50's during the first week in Feb, you can pull your water hose out and clean that mud up!!!  How can snow plowing clean up your lawn?
January 18, 2008 7:19 PM
 

Jim Teske said:

8:30 PM Friday update.....

I don't have too much time this evening some I'm just going to add a few thoughts.

The overall scenario Dave painted above still holds based on the afternoon data.  There is pretty good agreement that Saturday night and Sunday the winds should be generally out of the west in the lower atmopshere.  That puts the Tug Hill in the bullseye at ths point.  The Weather service has posted Lake Effect snow waches for these areas starting later Saturday.  The one thing that puzzled us a little in the office this afternoon is that one of our models (the GFS) showed the low level winds shifting into the northwest by Sunday morning.  However, given what we see in the big picture Sunday morning ( a strong disturbance to the west of CNY) we just can't see that kind of wind shift happening.  Right now we think the heavier squalls should stay north of Syracuse during the weekend.  

How much snow over the Tug?  If the winds stay westerly for an extended period of time a couple of feet will be easy to reach by early Sunday evening. Stay tuned to our weather page throughout the weekend to see specific snow totals.

Also, we want to caution that heavy snow might continue into Monday east of the lake.  True, the air aloft is warming Monday but that process of bring warm air back (we call it warm advection) adds lift to what the lake is already causing.  The bottom line is it will still be cold enough for lake effect while this is all going on.

Game time temperature in Green Bay Sunday near 0 with a wind chill of -20.

A relatively balmy 22 above in Foxboro with a wind chill near 0.

Have a great weekend.

Jim
January 18, 2008 7:30 PM
 

Shawn said:

Thanks for the update Jim.  Sounds like SYR is going to miss out yet AGAIN on some snow!!!!!!!

Chris2--Snowplowing can't clean up or fix your lawn, but it sure can make it look better :-).  What I meant is that the snow will cover up the mud and torn up sod from peoples lawns that snowplowers (like myself) have torn up!!!!!  It was a joke

GO NY GIANTS!!!!!!!!
January 18, 2008 9:13 PM
 

Phil said:

Let snow!!! I hope the next time I see 2-4, I hope it's 2-4 FEET!!!!! Bring it on. This inches stuff is for the birds. The geese are still here!  GO PACKERS!!!!
January 18, 2008 10:55 PM
 

wedie said:

what about the bernhards bay area ? how much snow there ?
January 19, 2008 9:05 AM
 

rescue141x said:

Man the Tug Hill always gets all the freakin snow. Not fair. This sucks!
January 19, 2008 10:15 AM
 

MARK D. said:

HELLO FROM CENTRAL SQUARE, HOW MUCH SNOW HERE. HOPEFULLY NOT 1-2 FEET. I THINK WE WILL BE ON THE SOUTHERN MOST FRINGE OF THE LAKE EFFECT.
January 19, 2008 10:22 AM
 

Dan said:

I just toped of the fuel tank on my tractor/7' snow blower here in West Leyden
January 19, 2008 10:43 AM
 

ssjdcc said:

oswego ny, about 5 min from the lake, snowing hard.... 12:30pm... we'll see if it stays! let it snow let it snow..... :) gd day all :)
January 19, 2008 11:39 AM
 

ssjdcc said:

12:53, wow! that was fast...... the snow stopped and we got ourself a clear sky again.... :)
January 19, 2008 11:54 AM
 

Dan said:

The Old Lake Effect is a lot like christmass morning you just don't know what your going to get till its over , yahoo let it snow.
January 19, 2008 1:37 PM
 

let it snow...Oswego,NY said:

its about time for some damn snow...it is winter in all and i wish we would see a huge amount of lake effect...snowed pretty good here in Oswego but not to long only got a dusting...hoping for like a foot or more...LET IT SNOW LET IT SNOW
January 19, 2008 1:56 PM
 

Amy...Oswego,Ny said:

man i am hoping for a significant amount of snow...this is winter and i would like to know where all our snow is...hopefully we dont get it all at once like we did did last feb...SSJDCC if so will you come shovel us out...lol just kidding...well hoping for at least a foot tonight...have a great day all and hope to hear from someone soon...
January 19, 2008 2:14 PM
 

ssjdcc said:

for amy...oswego,ny you shovel yourself out! i have enough here to shovel.... thanks anyways!
January 19, 2008 2:28 PM
 

Amy...Oswego,Ny said:

LOL...BUT THAT WHATS FRIENDS ARE FOR...BUT WE WANT THE SNOW SO WE MUST HAVE TO DO IT OUR SELVES CAUSE OUR HUBBYS WILL BE MAD IF WE GET A LOT AND THEY HAVE TO SHOVEL IT...WE NEED OUR WORK OUT ANYWAYS...ENJOY THE SNOW IF WE GET IT I WILL...
January 19, 2008 2:32 PM
 

Jim Teske said:

3:45 PM Saturday update...

Nice little burst of snow came through Syracuse about an hour ago. Big flakes but not much accumulation.  That was the cold front that is leading edge of the arctic air. We are in the upper 20s here but it's in the teens already in Toronto.

As is typical right after the passage of a cold front, there is very little in the way of lake effect and it may take a while for things to get organized this evening while the winds in the lower atmosphere line up.

Right now it looks like the heaviest squalls will occur from late tonight through the day Sunday. If I had to pick an area that would get the brunt of the snow within the warning area it would be one that was bordered  by Oswego-Parish-Camden-Boonville-Pulaski. I'm sure Mark will be posting some expected accumulations in the weather section and during the newscasts but I gotta believe some places in this area will have 2 feet of snow by Sunday evening. Central Square and Bernhards Bay looks to be just south of this heavy core.  For Syracuse it still looks like lake effect is a non issue.

As I mentioned earlier don't loose sight of lake effect into Monday.  I see the lake effect snow warnings are only up until 6 AM Monday but my gut says they will probably have been extended into the afternoon.

Jim
January 19, 2008 2:50 PM
 

let it snow...Oswego,NY said:

thanks for the update Jim...i am hoping we see the 2 feet...i want it to snow...i am hoping for a white sunday and maybe a day off of work on Monday...
January 19, 2008 6:10 PM
 

Dave Longley said:

8 PM Update

Have been away from things a bit today...judging a science fair up in Mexico.  I have to echo Jim's thoughts of 1 to 2 feet, but given the instability forecast, and the core of cold getting in here Sunday afternoon, along with the upper lake connection, it's not a stretch to see 3 feet of snow on the Tug by Monday morning.  Basically it's math.  36 hours would take us to 8 AM Monday.  1 inch per hour conservatively (and we all know we can do better than that with intense snowbands) 3 feet should be a cinch.  

For Syracuse area, we'll have the cold and wind along with some breaks of sun.  Travel north of there should get difficult during the day Sunday.

-Dave
January 19, 2008 7:01 PM
 

Shawn said:

I heard about a widespread snow in here Tuesday.  Will that add up to anything, or just a light snow?  

Thanks for the updates Dave and Jim--Enjoy your weekend and GO GIANTS!
January 19, 2008 7:17 PM
 

NorthBayLight said:

Was just reading the update from this afternoon.
What are the thoughts on the southern shift that the band will make tomorrow -- what accumulations will we see in west/central Oneida County????

Let It Snow!
January 19, 2008 7:22 PM
 

Jack said:

I want to see some big snow as well.  Its freakin winter and its bad enough to have short days.  The least thing we could get is some big snow storms.   I love them!!!
January 19, 2008 9:05 PM
 

ssjdcc....oswego, ny said:

sunday 7:35am the snow is falling hard, white out... oswego is getting hammered.... we always do though! i am 5 min from lake ontario and man is it lake effecting out there bad..... oswego is going to see alot of snow!!!!! YIPPY.... good day all.... :)
January 20, 2008 6:36 AM
 

Robracer...Fulton said:

Woke up to 2 feet on the ground!!! It has let up here now,8:45am, see braks to the south.
January 20, 2008 7:24 AM
 

Fred said:

6 in here at tinker tavern at 6 amand was clear now starting to snow a gain at 8:45 am.   looks like band moving up our way now ans snowing harder all the time  will post later this after noon.
January 20, 2008 7:46 AM
 

ssjdcc...... oswego,ny said:

8:51 am still coming down..... lake effect bad... lots of it....... 5 min from lake ontario...... no break here...... :)
January 20, 2008 7:52 AM
 

west monroe said:

as of 830 this am snowing hard with whiteout conditions
January 20, 2008 7:59 AM
 

ssjdcc....oswego, ny said:

well i mesured the snow, some spots are differ, flat surfes reads 6 1/2 inches.... im sure oswego has more out there..... a bit chilly to stay out there and read..... stll lake effecting pretty hard...
January 20, 2008 8:09 AM
 

Highmarket said:

I live in Highmarket on top of Tug Hill, could not ask for a better day no snow last night and it is SUNNY now 9:30am
January 20, 2008 8:41 AM
 

MM said:

I thought that Rome was going to be out of this, but woke up with 8 inches on the ground and it is snowing pretty hard here right  now.  Looking at the doppler, it doesn't look like it should be snowing here much at all, but it sure is coming down!
yipee!
January 20, 2008 8:41 AM
 

pat regal said:

live a mile from parish line, it is 9:45 am and still snowing heavy. The wind is also blowing some....oh wait a minute now I can see the house next door again!
January 20, 2008 8:47 AM
 

NorthBayLight said:

Approximately 2 to 3 inches here overnight -- didnt start snowing until after midnight and then it came down with some force!!!
Still snow here pretty good right now....blowing more than anything.

Let it Snow!
January 20, 2008 9:10 AM
 

patb said:

have shovelled twice here in Mexico.  About 16 inches so far.  Plow guy came before 8.  My driveway is clearer than the roads.  No plows, state or otherwise, sighted yet this morning.
January 20, 2008 9:32 AM
 

gene s said:

Nice in b'ville as predicted by the weather guru's. Nice to have a staff that knows what's going on most of the time. Heading to the golf show at oncenter hopefully the balls will be the only things white flying around here.
January 20, 2008 9:32 AM
 

Amy...Oswego,Ny said:

i live in Scriba...almost New Haven...i woke up at 8:30 this morning and shoveled a foot off my porch...now at 10:30 it is still coming down hard...another 6 inches to shovel now...still coming down hard in Scriba...FINALLY SHOVELS AND PLOWS COME IN HANDY...
January 20, 2008 9:33 AM
 

Fred said:

just checked snow measuring bord  snow rate is 6 in per hr here at tinker tavern and close to  white out conditions some wind . a bout 12 in on the ground now.  
January 20, 2008 10:00 AM
 

gorace24 said:

now the sun is out to the South and the sky is dark to the North and it is just flurries now here, I am the one who lives a mile from the Parish line.  The snow is now moving North again.  wonder if it will stay that way for the rest of the day or move back closer South?
January 20, 2008 10:04 AM
 

Dave Longley said:

12:20 update-   About 2 inches here in Cicero.  Some impressive snow totals thus far of 2 to 3 feet in the heaviest snow.  Band is lifting north, but I looked at some of the WRF simulations out of NWSBUF and it looks like a jog south may occur early tonight.  Mark Chapin has that in the story posted at 9wsyr.com  Still looks like the city of Syracuse stays out of it, but the band of heavy snow may make it as far south as the Oswego/Onondaga county line.  Of course that means you folks in northern Wayne, northern Cayuga, much of Oneida and perhaps even northern Madison counties could see some briefly heavy snow at times later today and tonight.  By sunrise Monday, it looks like the band will be in Oswego and Oneida counties.  

We should continue to get thunder and lightning with the band as the coldest air is over us now.  That will continue into tonight.  We should also see help from the upper lakes, feeding into the band.

The band will take a more decided move north later tomorrow, ahead of another system approaching Tuesday.  This Tuesday thing doesn't appear to be a big snowmaker, perhaps a couple of inches.

Live Doppler 9 is still streaming on 9.2 and TWC 890.  

Stay safe traveling in the lake snow areas.

-Dave
January 20, 2008 11:23 AM
 

LordOfTheSith said:

this sucks!!!!! Syracuse always gets shunted.....the way things are going Syracuse may remain remain frozen and green this "winter"...and I used the term "winter" sparingly
January 20, 2008 11:27 AM
 

bluedevilsccr said:

Williamstown has been getting hammered hard...relatives just went up trying to leave but had to turn around to make it back.  whiteout conditions, roads are full of snow.  do you think places like vienna and sylvan beach will be getting heavy snow anytime soon??
January 20, 2008 11:55 AM
 

Fred said:

snow band north of tinker tavern  not snowing here right now but expect that to change soon LOL about 18 in total so far here
January 20, 2008 1:27 PM
 

Mike C. said:

The City of Oswego's DPW is sooo slow at plowing streets. Snow was over by 10am and they just plowed our street. It is now 2:30p...

I'm hoping for more snow!!!
January 20, 2008 1:34 PM
 

Jim Teske said:

4:00 PM Sunday update...

The band is now over northern Oswego/southern Lewis Counties but it does look to me like it is getting ready to shift back south into southern Oswego/northern Oneida/extreme northern Cayuga Counties this evening and overnight Sunday.  This will be the area in line for the heaviest snow tonight.  Another 1 to 2 feet is my first guess after looking at the data.

South of this (Wayne/northern Onondaga/northern Madison/Southern Oneida) you may get into the squalls from time to time.  I see the NWS put up an advisory in this general area tonight.  It's a real close call.  I saw one of the computer models brought the band down to the Oswego/Onondaga County line later this evening and that is as far south as the snow gets.  Given the squalls moved about 10-15 miles farther south than the models indicated at this time last evening it's probably a good idea to post the advisory.  If you are wondering how much snow you will get tonight, keep checking our weather page for the latest snow accumulation map.

As I suspected, the NWS extended the lake snow warning for Oswego County until 1 PM Monday afternoon (northern Oneida County was already in the warning until 1 PM).  Look for an additional accumulation before the squalls quickly move north during the afternoon.

9 minutes left in the first half New England 7 San Deigo 6 Tom Brady had as many incomplete passes in his first drive as he had in all of last week's game. Heh, we can't live on just weather....

Jim
January 20, 2008 3:08 PM
 

Skyflash said:

4:00   The band is just north of us here in Mexico. Almost on our doorstep.
It certainly has kept it's intensity during the day here while shifting N/S.
Looking at Live Dop 9, the core of the band has remained pretty solid
throughout the day.

I do see the upstream connection starting on the KBUF and Canadian radars.
Looks like this could get interesting in 3-4 hours!!!
January 20, 2008 3:12 PM
 

ssjdcc...... oswego,ny said:

starting to lake effect here again in oswego..... we are in for the pack of it. alot more to come tonight...... we already recived well over 1 1/2 feet......... :)
January 20, 2008 3:17 PM
 

Bonnie said:

I just checked out Live Doppler 9, and it does appear that the line is starting to move South again.  I got home from work at midnight, between Phoenix and Fulton, and it was not snowing.  Woke up to about 8 inches and Sunny!  Looks like I'm in for it tonight though....

By the way...GO PACK GO!!!!!!!
January 20, 2008 3:22 PM
 

gorace24 said:

I have been watching the sky all day getting a little darker now coming from the North. If we get hit with the 2 or 3 ft of snow overnight as D. Longley stated,it will be a repeat performance of last year's snow event: got up in the morning and couldn't find my car!!!
January 20, 2008 3:43 PM
 

NorthBayLight said:

Wow the wind had picked up over Oneida Lake something fierce in the last hour...its been hit and miss all day and now...its constant howling -- very strong.
I suspect this is the lake effect knocking on our door..... We're ready for it!

Let It Snow!
January 20, 2008 3:44 PM
 

patb said:

Well, in my part of Mexico we cleared off with sunshine for a few hours this afternoon.  It is now almost 5 pm and its snowing again with some wind.  At least I got the first dump finally cleaned off my car!
January 20, 2008 3:52 PM
 

Bonnie said:

Wind's picking up here now too, with the sky getting darker and darker...
January 20, 2008 4:04 PM
 

MARK D. said:

5:00 P.M. BEEN SUNNY ALL DAY. WIND GUSTS TO 40 AT LEAST HERE. HERE IN CENTRAL SQUARE STARTING TO SNOW LIGHTLY. LAKE EFFECT MOVING SOUTH AGAIN. HERE WE GO AGAIN. THATS O.K. THOUGH, EVERY DAY CLOSER TO SPRING!!!!!
January 20, 2008 4:16 PM
 

ssjdcc....oswego, ny said:

holy lake effect.... 5:22pm here and man is it snowing... here we go once again....
January 20, 2008 4:23 PM
 

gorace24 said:

Well it is now snowing in West Monroe, so here we go, the fun begins.
January 20, 2008 4:41 PM
 

Amy...Oswego,Ny said:

MAN I WANTED THE SNOW ALONG WITH SSJDCC AND NOW WE GOT IT...IT IS 6:11 AND MAN I CANT SEE ACROSS THE STREET...HOPEFULLY IT WILL LET UP TOMORROW FOR ME TO GO BACK TO WORK...HAVE FUN ALL AND BE SAFE IF YOU GO OUT...BUT MAN I HAVE TO SAY I LOVE THE SNOW
January 20, 2008 5:13 PM
 

let it snow...Oswego,NY said:

i live in the city of oswego and it is thundering and lightning with the snow...it is awesome...already have almost 2 feet and getting pounded again...i heard they shut the city of fulton down...has anyone heard that yet?
January 20, 2008 5:15 PM
 

Samantha said:

Doppler shows the bands just about over us in Phoenix, but I don't see any snow falling!! Where is it?!
January 20, 2008 5:25 PM
 

ssjdcc....oswego, ny said:

let it snow...Oswego,NY yes my friend told me that her friend lives there and that FULTON is shut down. They got HAMMERED BIG TIME!!!!!! We got well over 2 feet i am sure of that..... and it isnt over yet. as for amy...oswego,ny, you begged for all that snow, well YOU GOT IT... what you ask for you get. LOL! :). everyone that got hammered like myself please drive safe... matter of fact STAY OFF THE ROADS....... cant see a darn thing.... good night all :)
January 20, 2008 6:30 PM
 

ssjdcc....oswego, ny said:

oh by the way the thunder was the most amazing thing..... it lit that sky up so bright..... it was just so AWESOME! :)
January 20, 2008 6:33 PM
 

MARK D. said:

BACK AGAIN. 2-5 FEET A POSSIBILITY?IN SOME AREAS.MAN OH MAN, BE SAFE ALL. GOOD NIGHT.
January 20, 2008 7:02 PM
 

Amy...Oswego,Ny said:

Dave or Jim...I was just told by my neice that we r supposed to get another 15-18 inches tonight and then another 5-8 tomorrow is this true? I live in Scriba almost in New Haven and we already have over 2 feet now...any chance we will see maybe 2 more feet? Please get at me as soon as you can...Thank You
January 20, 2008 7:10 PM
 

Skwerlboy said:

8:10pm here in Minetto, the snow has been and gone south.  Got a quick 7-8 inches.  Hope it swings back up and parks over us.  So far a couple of feet for the day.
January 20, 2008 7:16 PM
 

Theresa.... Amboy/Williamstown said:

My husband works for our local DPW and he has been out since 3:30 this morning, he came home at 4:30, then left again at 6, and who knows what time he will be home now, we have gotten between 2-3 feet of snow, and it is still comeing down, oh I'll take that back just looked out my window and can see my sister-in-laws outside light now, which I couldn't see before, so must be a break, just looked at the doppler and it is just about 2 miles south of me. I wanted snow but not all at once, geeezzzs
January 20, 2008 7:57 PM
 

ssj said:

alot of us wanted the SNOW... well SOME got it SOME didn't..... for us that did enjoy, stay safe. for us that dint get any.... sorry to hear that! :)
January 20, 2008 8:18 PM
 

Robracer...Fulton said:

It's 9:20pm and snowing very hard. Doesn't seem to have the intensity as last night, still pretty hard though. Check that, it's dumping out there!!!! Have close to a foot.
January 20, 2008 8:22 PM
 

Jim Teske said:

9:20 PM update....

Impressive looking lake effect band coming across southern Oswego/northern Cayuga at this hour. I haven't seen any reports in the last few hours but just looking at Live Doppler 9 I would think that 2 to 3" per hour is common where you see the yellow.  In the main weather discussion Mark mentioned we would start losing the input from the upper Great Lakes later tonight and I think I'm starting to see that process happening on satellite pictures.  Check this out and loop the picture for 12 hours and you will see clouds that were coming off Lake Huron decreasing:

http://weather.unisys.com/satellite/sat_ir_ne_loop-12.html

That's not to say the snow is going to end but the extreme snowfall rates should come down a bit.  Remember on our weather page we have a snowfall accumulation map from late Sunday afternoon through 7 PM Monday:

http://www.9wsyr.com/weather/default.aspx

NFC update 20-20 9:15 left with the Giants driving.

Jim
January 20, 2008 8:30 PM
 

Tom2 said:

We are due for another thaw!!! When will we be warming up?
January 20, 2008 9:06 PM
 

Shawn said:

Man, I'm jealous of all this snow north of Syr.  Stars are out here in Onondaga Hill.  Radar still looks impressive north of year!

NY GIANTS WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  WHAT A GAME!!!!!!!
January 20, 2008 10:03 PM
 

Drew said:

I decided to go to SUNY Oswego exactly for these types of lake effect events...so what does it do? It comes 3 days before I go back there after Christmas. How frustrating! It had better not do that all 4 years!
January 20, 2008 10:12 PM
 

Skwerlboy said:

2:30am in Minetto.  WOW!!!  It Just keeps coming down here!  We are on our way to 4 FEET!!!  I love it....keep it coming!   No lightning and thunder as of yet that I have noticed.  I will be going to bed soon and can't wait to see what has happened when I get up.  See you all then!
January 21, 2008 1:34 AM
 

dlongley said:

Updated snow totals as of 6:10 Monday morning:
Oswego 30"
Scriba  32"
Fulton  37"
Mexico  26"
Pulaski  30"
Redfield  17"
Westdale  13"

Lake snow band is weakening very slowly.  We will not see snowfall rates or intensity like we did later Sunday.  Instead of a solid area of yellow within the band corresponding to 2-4"/hour snowfall rates we have broken up areas of yellow.  We're losing the moisture contribution from the upper lakes.

-Dave
January 21, 2008 5:18 AM
 

ddsotisco said:

when will the finger lake region see snow?
January 21, 2008 5:24 AM
 

NorthBayLight said:

Some pretty impressive snowfall overnight! While it wasnt the snowfall that they had in Oswego and Fulton...I'm not complaining about the solid 8" that we recieved.
Still snowing a bit this morning, too.
I knew the snow would make a comeback!!! ;-)

Let It Snow!
January 21, 2008 6:05 AM
 

newsfan said:

Dave or Jim, Are we going to get any major widespread snow soon?
January 21, 2008 6:27 AM
 

ssjdcc....oswego, ny said:

OMG.... Woke Up this morining with 3 feet of NEW snow. I say NEW SNOW that is.... Together we got i would say 4 1/2 to maybe close to 5 feet..... We can't drive down our roads. There are no roads.... LOL...... It's 7:44am and holy cow it is still lkae effecting out there....... I am telling you it's bad, it's still falling outside pretty steady...... for us who have to shovel our way out our house, don't break the backs...... have good day, keep warm OSWEGO NY....
January 21, 2008 6:46 AM
 

dlongley said:

Updated snow totals at 7:50 AM...

West Monroe  28"
Palermo  33"

Heavy stuff is now north of Oswego.  Heaviest snow from the nuclear plants in Scriba, southeastward toward Mexico.  Watch out Pulaski/Sandy Creek.  As the band shifts north, it should be able to maintain the 1-3"/hr snowfall rates.  Fortunately it'll be moving, but close to a foot is possible for you folks today.  Oswego and Fulton, you can begin the dig out, the lake snows will stay to your north now.

-Dave
January 21, 2008 6:56 AM
 

ssjdcc....oswego, ny said:

dave l. still snowing here in oswego. very heavey....
January 21, 2008 7:03 AM
 

ssjdcc....oswego, ny said:

dave l. we cant shovel out just yet... the snow is still falling.....
January 21, 2008 7:27 AM
 

Mike C. said:

Oswego got hammered!!! Will measure in a little bit...
January 21, 2008 7:31 AM
 

ssjdcc....oswego, ny said:

MIKE C..... we did get hammered didn't we! dave l wrote that we got 30' but i know theres more than that.....
January 21, 2008 7:34 AM
 

dlongley said:

That report from Oswego was from the NWSBUF.  I don't have any other numbers.  If you can get a measurement, it'd be much appreciated.

-Dave
January 21, 2008 7:45 AM
 

dlongley said:

2 more totals coming in....39" in Pulaski, 18" in C. Square.  
January 21, 2008 7:47 AM
 

dlongley said:

As of 9 Monday Morning:
NOUS41 KBUF 211408
PNSBUF
NYZ001>008-010>014-019>021-085-220158-

PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT
SPOTTER REPORTS
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BUFFALO NY
858 AM EST MON JAN 21 2008

THE FOLLOWING ARE UNOFFICIAL OBSERVATIONS TAKEN DURING THE PAST 24
HOURS FOR THE STORM THAT HAS BEEN AFFECTING OUR REGION.
APPRECIATION IS EXTENDED TO HIGHWAY DEPARTMENTS...COOPERATIVE
OBSERVERS...SKYWARN SPOTTERS AND MEDIA FOR THESE REPORTS.  THIS
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********************STORM TOTAL SNOWFALL********************

LOCATION          STORM TOTAL    TIME/DATE    COMMENTS
                    SNOWFALL       OF
                    (INCHES)   MEASUREMENT


NEW YORK

...CATTARAUGUS COUNTY...
  SOUTH DAYTON          14.0   605 AM  1/21

...OSWEGO COUNTY...
  OSWEGO                34.0   630 AM  1/21
  PALERMO               33.0   730 AM  1/21   LIGHT SNOW
  OSWEGO                30.0   600 AM  1/21   15" LAST 7 HRS...CITY.
  WEST MONROE           28.0   853 AM  1/21   LIGHT SNOW
  MINETTO               27.7   756 AM  1/21   CLOUDY
  EAST OSWEGO           27.5   855 AM  1/21
January 21, 2008 8:49 AM
 

Bonnie said:

I got about 5-6 inches last evening in a couple hour period.  Then it stopped and I didn't get anymore, between Phoenix and Fulton.  No thunder and lightnign for me.
January 21, 2008 9:18 AM
 

Zach said:

I live in Northern Cicero and we barely missed out on receiving a foot of snow because the band never really shifted south enough but when it did it snowed like crazy. We got right around a half foot of snow. Where do you think the lake snow will be and how much will fall on Wednesday Dave?
January 21, 2008 9:19 AM
 

KBC said:

So far I give this winter a c- maybe even a D or an F.  It started off nice in mid December...I live in Ontario county, just south of the Thruway. We usually do not see much lake effect snow here. However, December 07 the band stayed so far inland that we got a nice foot of snow. A few more minor snow events after that, plus a few missed Nor -Easters.....then the stupid warm up. Ever since then the Winter has gone down hill. I hate it when it is cold and no snow. I guess I need to move to Oswego asap. This Winter is depressing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 21, 2008 9:54 AM
 

ssjdcc....oswego, ny said:

KBC... be happy you ddint get our snow..... we are all having trouble here in oswego trying to shovel our way out. cant even drive down the roads here. bridge street is plowed, thats the main drag to and from where you have to get to. other than that all side streets are horrible. packed with nothing but 3 1/2 to as much as 5 feet of nothing but WHITE crap..... i rather move to where you are so i don't have to deal with the shoveling and so forth...... enojy your weather, for sure..... :)
January 21, 2008 10:43 AM
 

jon ch said:

no snow in dewitt all weekend and monday am. in fact any forecast of snow in south east onodaga co, is again another phony forecast by tv metoeroligists on channel 9 ; how do you people justify what you get paid; anybody as wrong as you in there jobs are fired. remember the less snow we have and less cold , more senior citizens would live through the winter time and less accidents on the road; long live the sun and warm weather.
January 21, 2008 11:31 AM
 

nice said:

jon ch, move.
January 21, 2008 11:46 AM
 

jon ch said:

hey, nice, no compassion for your fellow human beings; most of these people cant movew because they are not overpaid and struggling to survive. why dont you and channel 9 weathermen[ ha ha] who are overpaid for your work move to anartica , and live outside where you belog. please, be nice to the penguins; theyre wonderful humans .
January 21, 2008 1:46 PM
 

facefurny said:

jon ch,  no one offers you compassions because you display none.  Nearly every one of your posts are either calling people names or complaining...but, at least you're consistent.
January 22, 2008 8:24 AM
 

jon ch said:

well, FACEFURNY, how have you been . my father is 85, i have compassion and concern for all senior citizens and human life. winter kills. as i stated early most senior citizens and people die in these frigid conditions and accidents on the road are plentiful. forecasts on tv are motivated and sponsered by winter busineses; why not just report the weather instead of gloating about it. the national weather service is more accurate ; someday , you will learn that human life is more valuable than how many people ski at song mountain
January 22, 2008 11:38 AM
 

Jane said:

Watching the school closings this morning, I noticed on the changing weather at noon and other times, there is a number after the snow report.  Does anyone know what that # means.

Thanks,
Jane
January 23, 2008 8:56 AM
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