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So Who Will See the Snow?

Posted by Dave Longley - 10:30 AM Thursday - The widespread rain that moved in overnight is in the process of leaving now.  Primarily we have seen rain, but I noticed a few web cams from the Adirondacks showing some snow on the ground. 

What I think will happen through the rest of the daylight hours is the steady rain to taper to scattered showers.  We just saw some thin spots in the clouds over western New York, so it's possible that we could see a few bright spots in the clouds this afternoon.  Temperatures in the low 40s may rise a bit into the mid 40s this afternoon. 

The million dollar question though is...who will have to shovel tomorrow morning?  As is typical of this time of year, that's not an easy question to answer.  I think it'll take awhile for the lower atmosphere to cool enough to support snow in lower elevations.  However, it is very possible that as early as this evening we may see a few bursts of heavier snow that could coat the ground with snow, especially over higher elevations.  Keep that in mind if you'll be out and about this evening.

 Later tonight, we're cold enough for snow everywhere and many of us southeast of Lake Ontario could see a couple inches of accumulation by Friday morning.  The favored areas for that would be across parts of Onondaga, Madison and Cortland counties.  Honestly, I just don't see any real organization to things because of the wind direction.  It looks like a northwest wind flow, which crosses the narrow axis of Lake Ontario.  This is usually not a favorable wind flow for any real organized lake snow.  I would expect to see some snow in the area when we get up Friday morning.

During the day Friday, the arrival of daylight will likely disrupt the lake effect circulations so that we end up with the typical "spray" of lake effect snow showers.  There may very well be some raindrops mixed in across lower elevations.  The reason for this disruption is that updrafts that occur over the land due to daytime heating will take away from the updrafts within the band of lake effect snow.  With no dominant circulation in the atmosphere, no one place is favored, so everyone shares in the action of the snow showers.

A thing to watch for is the arrival of sunset Friday.  As we lose the updrafts over land, the lake effect snow band will once again show up.  Current indications are that the band could start out somewhere in the vicinity of Syracuse.  However, winds are forecast to become more westerly tomorrow night, which means more organization to the lake snows, because the air is over the lake waters for a longer period of time (longer fetch)  Also, with backing winds to a more westerly direction, the focus for lake effect will shift north into Oswego and Oneida counties.  It could get VERY snowy across the Tug Hill plateau Friday night and Saturday.  Stay tuned for that.

Feel free to add your thoughts and observations.  I'll add to this blog entry as more information becomes available through the day and into Friday.

Published Thursday, November 15, 2007 9:28 AM by dlongley

Comments

 

Billy said:

So how much snow do you think Scriba could see by daybreak saturday?
November 15, 2007 1:59 PM
 

ssjdcc said:

us here in oswego are not going to see a trace of snow as again the lake is still too warm. but i seem too be the WRONG one about this when i post on here... so just wait till daybreak and find out for yourself.... good day!
November 15, 2007 2:18 PM
 

Billy said:

We saw a trace of snow last week when it snowed... so what are you talking about?
November 15, 2007 2:45 PM
 

Dave Longley said:

ssjdcc, I grew up in Oswego, so I know where you're coming from.  I lived within 1/4 mile of the lakeshore so usually those early season snows didn't stick at my house.  It's possible Friday night if the band really gets going, that you could see some accumulating snows in Oswego.  I'll have more on that tomorrow.
November 15, 2007 3:17 PM
 

ssjdcc said:

hey billy blue what the heck are you talking about????? you must not live in oswego, away from the lake maybe! i didnt see a trace of snow here that stuck at all. maybe my glasses werent really working but then again i am positive that i didnt see even a speck of that white stuff..... i think maybe you need to drink somemore coffee to keep those eyes wide open! as for you dave, you understand oswego just like i do. lived here all my life also. i have a clue what i am talking about...... good day to you all :) :)
November 15, 2007 3:35 PM
 

john greco said:

just wondering if we will see any snow here in the geneva area and do you guys know of any stroms comeing on or right after thanksgiving wham 13 out of rochester said something of that sort o watch both you and them most of the time cuss i am in beween roch and sy thanks
November 15, 2007 3:47 PM
 

Billy said:

umm here in Scriba we got a trace of snow last week ssjdcc.
November 15, 2007 4:26 PM
 

Tom said:

Being the weather boy for my school I think that areas near the lake will not get as much snow as areas away from the lake.
November 15, 2007 4:41 PM
 

Larry said:

I close to lowes in oswego and did not see any snow we did see a little hail that was about it
November 15, 2007 6:53 PM
 

ssjdcc said:

my mother in law lives in scriba billy blue! she stated there was nothing there... again get that coffee going.... wake those eyes up, your dreaming.... do i need to give you a pinch to wake you???? LMAO! have a nice night... it's all a DREAM!!!!
November 15, 2007 6:54 PM
 

Luke said:

I.D.K.
November 15, 2007 7:39 PM
 

SOME GUY said:

iN WANT SNOW FOR CHRISTMAS OR I WILL TEAR UP  MY LAWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 15, 2007 7:44 PM
 

OOOOO said:

SNOW TIME!!!!!!!!
November 15, 2007 7:49 PM
 

R said:

Rain rain go away. Make way for snow!
November 15, 2007 7:59 PM
 

Debbie said:

HOw about southwest, like Marcellus/Auburn areas, what can we expect??
November 16, 2007 2:16 PM
 

Yankeesgirll0307 said:

I won't see a trace of snow, this month or any other. I left cold and snowy, central NY for warm and sunny FL almost 3 yrs ago, woot woot!! Drive safely and keep warm!
November 16, 2007 2:38 PM
 

mark said:

I havent seen any snow in Bundyville!!!!!!!!!!!
November 18, 2007 8:39 PM
 

larry said:

we need lots of snow this year, we have been cheated the last few years, im in the snowplowing business and need it to snow lots.
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