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Plugged In: the DTV Switch

Portable radios and TV sound

Oft-asked question #238:  "After the DTV changeover, will I still get TV channels on my portable radio?"

Short answer:  "No."

Oft-asked question #239:  "But the store where I bought it said it was a digital TV / AM / FM radio."

Snarky observation:  "That's a statement, not a question."

Oft-asked question #240:  "Are you trying to be a jerk?"


Okay, here's the scoop:  so far, I have yet to see portable radios that receive digital TV stations... and I don't expect to any time soon, certainly not in the $20-30 price range most people expect. 

The issue is this:  if you (as a manufacturer) have already designed an FM radio, it's very easy to add analog TV sound because you're only expanding the band a bit -- analog TV used FM for the audio, so there's very little additional circuitry needed to add the feature.  Coming up with DTV audio is a much bigger task, and requires a separate receiver, logic to decode the station's PSIP tables and some kind of display to select which sub-channel you want, logic to filter out the data packets for the correct audio, a Dolby AC3 decoder, and a digital-to-analog converter.  That's an awful lot of additional stuff to pack into a small radio, and it will take an awful lot of power to run.  Offhand, I wouldn't expect to get more than about five or ten minutes from a 9-volt battery.

So what's the scoop with these "digital" portable radios?  I found one such model on line, sold through a large retail electronic chain:

Though this is billed as a digital radio, it isn't, really -- it's just an analog AM / FM / TV radio with a digital display instead of the traditional mechanical moving-bar scale.  It won't pick up digital TV stations, and it won't pick up digital HD radio stations, either.

Misrepresentation?  No, I don't think so... it's just imprecise wording, probably dating back a few years to the days when DTV was just a pipe dream.

Then, you ask, what about my portable TV sound radio?  If I were really trying to be a jerk, I'd give you a plan for modifying the radio to hook it to a converter box... but then you would also need a portable generator to run the converter, plus a good antenna, maybe on a mast you could hold like an umbrella.  By the time you're done, the rig would look something like a NASA lunar backpack.  Just the thing for a summer day on the beach, right?  Or maybe not.

-- Jeff

 

Published Wednesday, January 21, 2009 5:37 PM by JH Engineering

Comments

 

carlb said:

Winegard is claiming that their Winegard RC-DT09A Digital to Analog Converter Box W/ Analog Pass-Through RC-DT09A (CECB) is capable of running from an external battery pack assembled from six "D" cells; the Winegard 9-Volt Battery Pack For RCDT09/RCDT09A Converter Boxes (RC-BP9V) is a wee bit bulky compared to your tiny pocket radio and most likely is intended for use with small battery-portable TV's. Initial reviews of the CECB itself describe the EPG as primitive, but turn up little else - good or bad - of note about the device.

The manufacturer claiming "up to" 18 hours usable capacity - yes, the infamous words "up to" again. Hard to know exactly what they're "up to", what type of cells they're using to measure this, or how much power is being used. Typical CECB's use about 15 watts, so could kill a battery in a couple of hours. There have been do-it-yourself projects posted online that depict twelve-volt CECB's with huge lantern batteries.

No generators yet, though. That might be a wee bit of overkill.

The antenna problem is a more awkward one,  but would depend on location. If nearly anyone more than 10-25 miles from the station needs an outdoor antenna, forget about portable use. 8VSB's substandard handling of dynamic multipath also makes handheld use or installation on a moving vehicle an exercise in frustration.

I wouldn't bother trying it in this neck of the woods (40 miles WNW of Copenhagen) - a UHF corner reflector with a long row of director elements extending a metre or more ahead of the rest of the antenna isn't very portable. Maybe a 4-bay panel?
January 23, 2009 2:48 AM
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