There needs to be much more serious punishment for these hit and run boat accidents!  The fact that anyone would leave the scene is just a sick thing to do!  

There was a Joe Kowalewski who played football for Syracuse.  Anyone know if John was a relative?

To the best of my knowledge the family was not related to the football player.  This tragedy is just awful.  John Kowalewski was my fiance's grandfather, we are getting married in 3 weeks and now he won't be at the wedding because of what these awful people did!  He wanted to see his only granddaughter get married,  And because of people who are wrecklessand careless that will never happen!

Please extend the thoughts of all of us to your fiance and her family.

Thank you so much for your sympathies i will pass that on to the family

There is too much of this and i'm sick of it! hard jail time or even the death penalty might wake people up?

i feel compassion and sorrow for the gentleman. being killed doing one of our simplest and americana outdoor activity compares to murder in my book. i dont have a boat, but these tragedies seem to becoming a little more frequent. ide like to see the lake and outdoor activites void of heavy police scrutiny. lets get all the factsa firsrt before we decide to flood outdoor activity with more regulations and police.

our sympathy is with the family and it very sad that people can not go out and enjoy fidhing with out people out there ruining  and then to flee the sceane makes me sick you do the crime you need to due the time . we all dont like being checked on the water by the police but we need them there to control people who are out there that just dont respect others and feel that it ok to horse play on the water and if they find achol to be involved they need to give the other people life or death pently.

my sympathy to the family for the loss and for the person and family who hit the boat.  Tragic accident.

I extend my sympathies to both the family of the victim and the person who is responsible and their family.  For those of you who are quick to say the death penalty should be enforced, please remember, this can happen to anyone. People panic in situations like this and make bad judgments.  Yes, punishment comes into play, but I don't think the death penalty is the way to go.  This could be your brother, sister, parent, friend, etc.  This was not malicious, it was an accident.  Accidents do not warrant the death penalty.  I do think if people are allowed on the water, police forces should be increased as needed.  Seems to me there are too many of these accidents happening which tells me we need more supervision.  

I understand that people make bad judgement calls and do sometimes panic. But if this truely was an accident, why did he run?? Families understand more if this is an accident but when the other operator of the second boat ran, what did he or she have to hide...alcohol maybe?
My daughter was killed by a drunk driver nine years ago and I still to this day wonder why?? Her whole life was ahead of her and it was taken away by someone who made a bad judgement.

We don't need more supervision or babysitters. We need more people who are responsible for their actions. It is one thing to have an accident (apparently at a high rate of speed), but totally unacceptable to run away and not help.

My prayers and thoughts are with the Kowalewski family for their loss.

I'm sorry for the family's loss. There is no reason for something like this to happen. You are not driving down a narrow road. You are in a boat, on a big lake and in broad daylight, no less! How can you NOT see another boat ahead of you? I have a boat and I can't imagine flying over another boat. I hope these people get charged with murder because that's just what it was.

Please accept my deepest sympathy for this tragic loss.  Please find comfort in knowing that God sees all and knows all.  

My deepest sympathys go to the family and friends of the victim of this tragic accident. I heard this accident on the scanner. What i am wondering is though, is how did this happen. I know it was late but it was still light enuff to see. How could they not of seen the vivtims boat. The story says the Police and investigators have not made any arrests yet. Well they know who owned the second boat! Regardless if they dont know who was driving or not, that owner on the people on board should be at least held responsible for leaving the scene of an accident

@anonymous in Mexico NY

It was NOT late.  Please stop spreading misinformation.

The man was killed between 4pm and 8pm in the evening.  Read the story, fool.

There is usable daylight until after 9pm on the lake this week.  I know as I fish out there on Lake Oneida too.

My condolences to the Kowalewski family.

One word comes to my mind to describe the driver: COWARD

I was on the lake at the other end at about the time of the accident.
It was completely cloudy, no sun at all. So much for the Sun excuse.

Calm conditions very good visibility.

My deepest and heartfelt sympathies go out to the Kowalewski family on this tragic and senseless loss.Now the legal system gets to work in covering up the facts. Heres how it works, the piece of @#&* that caused this death ,leaves the scene -hides out with his daddy who several hours after the accident calls a lawyer.The lawyer makes sure that the kid gets sober or straight from the alcohol or drugs he was using before notifying authorities. The judge sets bond low enough so he spends only a few hours in custody,the DA's office is still to concerned with Cynthia Pugh and her parole/release that they let the kid cop a plea for a way lesser charge and he and daddy pay the fine . CASE CLOSED! The Kowalewskis live with the horror every day hereafter while the culprit is free to live life happily everafter, no muss no fuss ,no guilt. ITS ABOUT TIME FOR JUDGES TO DO WHAT THEY ARE PAID TO DO - NO DEALS

Deepest sympathy to the family and friends of Mr. Kowaleski this is truly a sad day for the Central New York Communities. Boating has become a very dangerous pastime much more so with the size and speed of boats and the lack of respect of by the drivers of boats. I thought that a boating course was manditory for all new boaters but I guess it would be very hard for law enforcement to enforce. The County and State might seriously think of finding more funds to employ more LEO's on the water. I find it truly amazing after the Skaneateles accident just over one month ago that this could happen again and be so covered up, giving the perpretraitor time to hire an attorney and cover his or her tracks. It seems very strange that anyone could think of leaving the scene after knowing full well what had just happened. All involved should be severly punished for the lack of compassion and not be protected as seems the case. In memory of John may these people involved be held accountable for not staying with his body and boat and not calling 911 immediately.

When you leave the scene of an accident and you run ,you know that you are trying to hide something. Be it drugs or booze , you killed a inocent man . Remember your day will come !

When you leave the scene of an accident and you run ,you know that you are trying to hide something. Be it drugs or booze , you killed a inocent man . Remember your day will come !

Who's son did this to have the chance to cover up such a heinous crime, to have a chance to go this long before even being charged when he came forward to the State Police on Friday Morning????? Something seems very very wrong with this whole story and smells of something very sinister.

I agree, Mat, this something is very wrong and sinister about this case.  Someone is obviously being protected.  My late father-in-law always said "everything comes out in the wash.  Lets hope so.  My condolences to the Kowalewski family and friends.  

We live on the lake (South shore near fisher bay) and we were out skiing and tubing at approx 5pm.  The skies were mostly cloudy at that time....  "sun in the eyes" is not plausible.

.....I TO AM WONDERING WHO SON THIS IS....SOMETHINGS UP...FOR THIS COWARD AND HIS COWARD CREW THAT WAS ON THE BOAT WITH HIM KNEW THEY HIT SOMETHING, AND IF THE SUN WAS IN HIS EYES WHICH I BELIEVE IT WAS CLOUDY THEY STILL KNEW THEY HIT SOMETHING AND SHOULD OF STOPPED BUT THEY DID NOT WHICH SAYS THEY WERE PROBABLY DRUNK OR SPACED OUT DUE TO DRUGS OR MAYBE EVEN BOTH.  WE WILL HAVE TO SEE JUST WHO THIS KID IS AND I DO HOPE THAT IF HE IS THE SON OF SOMEONE IN THE PUBLIC EYE THAT HE WILL BE TREATED JUST AS YOU OR I WOULD BE.....

AND IF BY CHANCE ANY OF YOU COWARDS ARE READING THIS.....YOU TOOK A LIFE AND DID NOT EVEN CARE TO SEE IF HE WAS OK.....YOU DESERVE WHAT YOU HAVE COMING AND I DO HOPE  THE LAW IS NOT EASY ON ANY OF YOU. THINK ABOUT IT, THIS COULD OF BEEN YOUR FATHER OR YOUR GRANDFATHER THAT WAS JUST LEFT THERE. ALL OF YOU SHOULD BE CHARGED NOT JUST THE ONE DRIVING THE BOAT, ALL OF YOU COULD OF CALLED FOR HELP AND I AM SURE THAT AT LEAST ONE OF YOU HAD A CELL PHONE ON YOU.

FOR THE FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF MR. KOWALEWSKI  I AM SO SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS.

It's pretty sad when someone's Father has so much power that his name isnot given out. People who are ordinary people without pull would already have their name spread across the news(tv& papers). They would have been aressted by now.
Everyone has cell phones these days. How could you not call?  How would you like it if it was a member of your family that was killed?    Again why is this person being shielded -- it seems even the police have their hands tied.    My   sympathy goes out to the Kowalewski family

So the driver has turned himself in via an attorney. It sure seems that this person waited long enough so that a blood alcohol level cant be taken.
Sympathy to the Kowalewski family and friends.

I did not know Mr. Kowalewski but my heart aches for him and his family.  This poor man didn't deserve to die the way he did.  He wasn't doing anything wrong or illegal nor was he harming anyone.  All he was doing was enjoying the simple pleasures of fishing. And for this he had to DIE???   Something IS definitely wrong here and I hope that all of the people on the boat are prosecuted to the full extent of the law!  Mr. Kowalewski didn't get any "deals" and NEITHER SHOULD YOU!!!  I honestly don't know how any of you can live with yourselves.

My deepest sympathy and prayers to Mr. Kowalewski's family and friends.

cicero_fisherman said:The man was killed between 4pm and 8pm in the evening.  Read the story, fool.

Hey ya dont have to be a ***, I was asking a question, and I got it answered, dont need to call names!!! Thanks

My daughter and I were out kayaking on the lake between 4 and 6 pm. The lake was pretty calm and it was overcast so there goes the sun in your eyes theory. My prayers go out to the Kowaleski family. To the murders / cowards on the boat your lives will be changed forever and I hope you will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

I heard that the boater that caused the crash fled to the casino that night. I guess he wasn’t very upset about the accident or even cared enough to call 911 or stop. Young kid, too bad he will probably spend a well deserved long term in jail for being so selfish and driving a boat while under influenced of drugs / alcohol.

Every person in that boat should be held accountable. How could you possibly not stop to help or call for help right away It is just so sad to think ther are people like that that live in our world.  My thoughts and prayers to the family.

If it were me and most common people we would have been arrested days ago. HELLO COWARD, MURDER!!

First of all I give my upmost sympathy to the family. He probably could have lived till he was 100 years old. As a boater myself, I will say I have had a couple of drinks on my boat, but am NEVER driving. As for the sun in your eyes, well then you should have slowed down, if that was the case, y did you not stop to help. This person driving was drunk there is no dought in my mind. Runs to daddy for help, well what about the family of the fishermen. If it were anyone else, who would have done this, we would have been all over the news. I feel that everyone on that boat should be held responsible, because they all knew what happpened and still left the scene. I have 2 of my own children and am very concerned for there life when we are on our boat. The sun has been in our eyes, SO WE SLOW down, not go faster. For this persons name to no be released, is BULL. This family should know as well as the general public. This is what happens when you have alot of money. Congrads to the bride to be, sorry your grandpa will not be present in person, but will be in mind and spirit. I am a wedding photographer and I truly sorry this happened to your family at all, but especially 3 weeks before your wedding. Again I send my deepest sympathy and my prayers are with the family of the fishermen. For the driver and everyone else on the boat that hit the fishermen, you all have no remorse for what you did and god will get even in his own way. To everyone reading this, PLEASE, DO NOT DRINK AND DRIVE, BECAUSE IT KILLS! I think that if drnking was not involved, the whole accident would not have happened. News has not said he was drinking, but why did he run if he was not drunk. Thats why he hid till one in the morning. DADDY step out and let him pay for what he did. Your son is a disgrace to our society. Let him go to jail. How would you feel if it were your father and his( loser that hit the fishermen) grandpa, would you have still let the booze wear off before you called the attorney. PROBABLY NOT!!!!

This is a sensless accident.  We boat on the lake almost daily and to use the excuse that sun might have been in your eyes so you didn't see the boat is no excuse.  The sun is in the sky at that time of day , and not setting.   Our heart goes out to the Mr. Kowalewskis family.

The driver of the boat is a 21 year old from Cicero.

Well I guess we can all be thankful that he got the worst lawyer in the county. His father can't be that rich or he would have gotten Emil Rossi!

This is such CRAP that the driver's lawyer is saying the sun may have been in the driver's eye - thus causing him to ram the other boat and kill another person.

CRAP - say I, as I live on the lake and remember noticing how the sun was no longer bright, but behind a thick veil of clouds - this before the accident even happened.  It was a nice morning, but a cloudy afternoon.

Did the "sun" make a boat load of 7 take off showing complete depravity of human life also?  No - that most likely was the alcohol that I would bet my right arm was involved.

First I would like to let the families know that our thoughts and prayers are with them. And one special note to the Grand Daughter - He will always hold a special place in your heart. I know that this will bring your spirits down on what is suppose to be the most happiest time of your life but don’t let it. Take some personal time to celebrate the man that your grandfather was, From all of the news reports I am hearing he was a very kind caring and gentle man that would do any thing for any body. Have a special remembrance ceremony to celebrate his life at your reception if it will help you with closure better and help you to move on. (Just a quick 5-min ceremony will do it, and then quickly move on to a more upbeat Typical reception itinerary). I think it will help you out tremendously as this is one of the "mile stones " to your wedding day weather it is good or bad. It will be a very emotional time for the next few weeks to begin with and with this happening it will be even more so for you and your family.   Pull together as a family unit and be strong for each other.   My cousins Father IN Law to be unexpectedly passed away the morning of her wedding, after a lot of discussion on weather or not to even have the wedding and reception we all decided that he would have wanted them to go through with the plans.  So what we did for them was at the reception we made up a poster board with some pictures of her F I L, Everyone there during the reception took a sharpie marker and wrote a nice little note about him or a memory.  It wasn't anything too over bearing and too intrusive, Just a small memorial for that day since he was planning on being there and then couldn't. They also did a toast in his honor. It was a bitter sweet day but all in all it was a great wedding and it helped play a part in having her F I L there in spirit.  
Keep your family and friends close and you will always be ok. They will be there for you to lean on when you need it the most.  Have a Happy and Beautiful Wedding!

My comment pertains to the foolishness that I see out on the waterways.  This weekend A few of our local BSA Troops and one Venture Crew took a bunch of young men and women on a "Lake to Lake" Oneida Lake to Lake Ontario canoe trip. I can say that we were very well prepared for what we were undergoing, BUT...... When you are out on a river and you see a group of canoes and kayaks with kids and adults in them I do believe it is a NY State Law to Slow Down before you get to them and stay slow while going by and until you are passed them. While on most of the trip we found most people very friendly and courteous as to what we were doing and where we had been, Just typical small talk and interest in our travels. That’s boating etiquette that’s the way it should be done.  Well, We has one guy come speeding up through (I say speeding the speed limit was 30 so he may have been doing 30 but way to fast for us).  My Husband was in the back power boat at the time and circled around to go back further to warn the other boater to reduce his speed because we had a group of canoes and kayaks, After repeated attempts of hand waving the signal for slowing down by both of us the other boater proceeded to head right towards the group. So my husband circled back up and got over on the inside between the other boater and the group so he (the speeding boater) was not near the group and we signaled to him again to reduce his speed as he was approaching them. He blatantly ignored us.  We started yelling for all of our kids and leaders out in the canoes and kayaks to get as far over to the right as possible and to be ready to hit these waves head on so they didn’t flip. As all of the was going on he hollered over to us he is not going to slow down and shouldn’t have to, This River is plenty big enough for all of us and If you (meaning the canoeing and kayaking group) didn’t like it than they didn’t belong on the water. That’s not right in my book. I am sure there has got to be some kind of law about slowing down for smaller boats no matter what they are. I think what it all boils down to is just some common sense.   Our group was very luck because they had two motor boats with them one in the front of the group and one in the back, SAFETY, SAFETY, SAFETY FIRST!  I think that NYS should make any one regardless of age operating a boat take the boater’s safety course. There are too many "adults" and I use that tem loosely, that have never even been in a boat before and all of a sudden go buy one and then are ripping up and down the rivers regardless of what the rules are. I also think that cracking down on BWI would solve alot of problems too but that’s a whole other subject!  I just wish people would use some common sense and learn the rules of the water because it can be such a fun sport if it is done correctly,  On the same token it can be so dangerous with just one wrong move.  If you see some one in distress on the water please extend a hand to help them out, I am sure if the tables were turned they would do the same for you.

We do this trip every year if there are any Scout groups or Crews interested on joining you can email me and I will get you the information. sskinner4@frontiernet.net

Yesterday was my 1st trip out to Lake Ontario since this accident happened. All I could think about was what happened to Mr. K., constantley looking over my shoudlers. I am always aware as to whats around me, but it was more so yesterday. I do have to say, while crossing Sandy Pond to get to the channel to go out into the lake, we followed and Oswego COunty Sheriff Boat out, which in my 3 years of boating out there, it was the 1st time I have seen them out there. Not saying that they are never out, but it was my 1st time seeing them and we are out almost ever evening during the week and all weekend, weather permitting. It is very sad that it has been almost 5 full days and that murderer has not been disclosed to the public. What is wrong with our society and judical system. Do we not have morals anymore. Regardless of race, age, or power that daddy holds, this should be public information. He has been hiding long enough! Has this poor family even been notified as to whom murdered there family member? Well if not they should have just as soon as the police found out. They have that right. How would you like it to not know what drunk killed your grandfather, father, brother or best friend due to power. POWER sucks!!!!!

Now its Monday.  Still no news about the spoiled cowards and what they have done.  I cant think of one reason why nothing has happened with them yet.(other than how important they may be or atleast how important they think they are.)  Not hearing about this on the news or in the paper today really must make Mr. K's family and all of us wonder if this is just going to be put aside until everyone forgets and leaves these punks alone.  Not happening!!!  Something needs to be done now and they better make it good!  To all judges out there, take this stupid ,sensless act by a bunch of spoiled brats to heart and not let these punks get away with it . This world lost a wonderful man and gained more people who think they can get away with MURDER!  

To all of you who are saying the death penalty is not warranted because this was an "accident".  was it an accident that a bunch of "kids" decided to be foolish, possibly drink, drive wrecklessly and kill an innocent man?  you can say that this was an "accident" and not a malicious act all you want.......what made this malicious was these teenagers and young adults decide to run and not call 911,  that one action turned this from a tragic freak accident into a malicious murder!  someone above said "this could happen to anybody"  Don't be stupid!  No this will not happen to me ever because i don't drink and if i ever did which i wouldn't, i would not drive.  Some of us in this world are responsible and have common sense enough not to do dumb irreversible things.  Its a shame that this young man can hide behind his daddys money and not have to own up to his actions!  The press claims he is cooperating with authorities??  I see no one in hand cuffs do you?? hello?!  The sun was in your eyes? BULL!  Too many people have come forward with lake conditions between the hours in question........verdicts in! CLOUDS and plenty of them!  You have no case and are going to jail for a lonnnnnnnnggg time.  You can't hide behind your father forever.  The truth will come out!  Its time to make examples out of some people for once!  Central new york needs to be united in this! thanks for you time!

This country is failing badly primarily because of people not accepting responsibility for their actions. ACCIDENT ??????? Accidents are things that cannot be prevented. This does not fall into a category of an accident.. It's irresponsibility beyond all!!! Take your punishment , Express your remorse and Shut up and go to jail!!!

So what makes Brad's dad so special, is he a public figure? The kids need to go to prison for the rest of his life if they don't give him the death penalty, which is what he deserves. I understand people make mistakes, but this was no mistake or accident. Grow up and be responsible for your own actions, don't hide behind daddy. Daddy is not going to be around forever. Suck it up and be a MAN!! Take what you have coming to you. My husband said SUN in the eyes, wrong! The sun sets over near Brewerton, so he was not even heading torward the sun, DUMB $&*. Get it right. My husband would know, he grew up in Big Bay and was on that lake most of his life 20+ years of driving a boat on that lake.

It is Monday afternoon and have yet to get an updated news report on this tragedy. We have been given two different names for the driver via this site. I have no sympathy for the driver or occupants of this boat. Young and scared is no excuse, nor is the "sun in my eyes" a valid defense. These people had no concern for human life other than covering there own butts. There is a difference between accidents and stupidity. This is classified as the latter of the two. I really hope the Oswego County DA doesnt let this slide as he has the past few DWI arrests. Here we go again, politics at it's best.

don't you think the father should be held responible/accountable for hiding the son from law inforcement? aiding and abetting?

Actually it was the father that called the attorney ( and I use the term loosely) who  then contacted the State Police so I don't think he is hiding his son. Not that I am sticking up for him, because I'm not. I just don't understand why everyone is dragging their heels on this. 7 people in a boat, going at a high rate of speed, broad daylight, slams into so hard that it flies over sitting boat and kills occupant, then flees and doesn't bother to report it not to mention that maybe Mr. K was just injured and could have had medical treatment. Left him there to die. Did he die on impact? Did the kids know? Did they bother to check? NO! They took off. No regard for human life. But don't say their names--let's protect them.

I don't know if anyone else read the page on 9wsyr.com about the autopsy results, according to that Mr. Kowalewski died of "blunt force trauma" instantly from being hit by the boat directly, at least that is what they believe happened.  It doesn't make things any better or let these kids off the hook anymore, but at least the poor man didn't lay there suffering for hours.  The news and interviews mad the 85 year old seem like he was still full of life even at his age.  Its a shame he had to lose his life in such a manner.  My prayers are with all of the Kowalewski family and friends!

May he rest in peace

Whoever the driver of the other boat is should be punished to the full extent of the law.  And, Sal Piemonte is such a crooked lawyer, it doesn't surprise me that the driver of the boat hasn't turned himself in.  I can't wait to find out who this is - hope your daddy has lots of money, cause with Sal as your attorney, you're gonna need it!!!

Many of you have been leaving comments on this and other sites, some sorrowful, some rightfully angry, some comforting...........but what really matters is the condition of your own soul.  I see the words of many good and decent people here but what you need to know is that no matter how bad this world gets, no matter how bad we screw things up God is in control of all things!  God is not to blame for the mistakes of mankind, he simply allows things to happen.  It is called consequences, we are taught them from a very young age.  Two-thousand and seven years ago God sent his only son Jesus Christ to die for the sins of all humans.  He died for you, he died for me, he even died for the driver of that boat.  What this young man did is an awful thing and he deserves a rightful punishment!  but in the end the only thing that matters is the condition of your eternal soul.  All of our lives are fragile and can be wiped out at any moment.  Its a very cliche thing to say "live every day as if it was your last" but how true it is!  Tell your family you love them, fathers....tell your kids you are proud of them and you love them.  Don't be so prideful, it may be your last day with them, let go of your petty grudges!

I have family members that haven't spoken for years and over what?! money? stuff? what a waste of the time that we have together!

Its time we wake up and see what is really important in this world because when your day comes, which it will for all of us.....you will me your maker.  You will have no excuses, no one to blame and no one to answer for but yourself.

John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his only son that whoever believes in Him would not perish but have eternal life"

Good deeds and works are simply not enough,  accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior, ask him to forgive you of your sins and strive your best to live as he lived.  At the end of the day that is all that matters! May John Kowalewski be at rest!

Well I guess we can thank God that Mr Kowalewski died instantly, but my point was they didn't event check. What if he wasn't dead and just injured? They just left him there. No human being deserves that. Why are these kids being protected when they did nothing to help that poor man? They should be in jail without bail for criminally negligent homicide and leaving the scene of an accident. I'm sure it's too late for BWI. Planned that one good.

My thoughts and prayers are with the Kowalewski family. It's a tragedy that these accidents keep occuring because a bunch of cowards decide to go out and kill someone. May John rest in peace, and I pray these cowards are caught and convicted of this senseless act.

I would like to know who the person that would do such an act..?? why havent they released a name??

Who is this kid's father?  How can a father "hide" his son from the police?  And how long did the father know his son did this (happened  4-6pm & Sal was called after 1am?) before calling Sal?  Are there witnesses that they were at 3-Mile Bay all day?  Of course, daddy & Sal waited until you couldn't prove anything....and if he wasn't drunk, why did he run? I'm pretty sure most people would have their BAC taken so that they had some proof on their side & nothing to hide.

My condolences to the Kowalewski family, may the Lord be with you in your hour of need.

Grew up on this beautiful lake.  Mixed in with the breathtaking sunsets, fishing, swimming, and great times on the lake, historically on the lake we've had accidents, drownings, near misses, and some hard times.  Never in my lake lifetime have I EVER seen a total disregard for humanity such as this.  Clearly the driver and the rest of the people on the boat who struck John Kowalewski were more interested in themselves and facing consequences than providing whatever comfort, they could give to him, much less any medical assistance and calling 911.  

As a young kid, we had to take a boater safety course before we could drive a boat on the lake.  I am not for more regulations, and it may seem that some may not wish to deal with such a requirement, and if the driver had a boater safety course, it may have not helped him anyway if he was under the influence of drugs or alcohol, as judgement, hand-eye coordination, spatial identification is impaired.

If we think about it.....

To strike a boat during daylight hours means a few things-

A) The driver wasn't looking ahead- or couldn't see ahead- his view either obstructed, chemically impaired, or he was distracted, maybe by another passenger.  It doesn't matter now, does it?

B) No one in the boat was looking ahead in time to notify the driver to avoid the accident either, until it was much too late, or if at all.

C) "Speed much too great" is an obvious variable here.

D) The decision- the one I'm really having a hard time with-  is that immediately after they struck Mr. Kowalewski's boat- their boat's momentum was probably carrying them forward after re-entering the water- with the throttle set to whatever it was set to- propelling them onward- It would seem to me that 7 people- 7 sets of eyes- all probably turned their heads 180 degrees and looked back to see what they had struck- At this CRUCIAL moment- all 7 had a choice.  If you're a passenger- and your driver doesn't comply with your request to turn around and help, there is little you can do, (taking their ages into account, whatever ages they may be) but the driver- the "captain" so to speak- had to make a basic human moral choice-

Face facts, get a grip, turn around and offer help-

or

Run away.

I do not know if Mr. Kowalewski would have survived with immediate medical help, but his chances must have been greater if there had been help for him.  But it doesn't matter now.  Most know how to apply direct pressure to a wound.

Mr. Driver you chose poorly that day.  Your choices before and after the accident were poor illustrations of the law abiding men and women who are lucky enough to call Oneida Lake a part of their home.  Your choice(s) led to the death of another, you showed your younger passengers the thoughtless character to run away, you decimated a family, forcing them to deal with the untimely and brutal death of their loved one, angered our community, gave law enforcement officials & law makers another reason to tighten controls on the masses of boaters everywhere....but none of this matters to the John Kowalewski or his family now does it?

I'm saddened for them, and I'm really angered as well.  There is nothing you can do for the Kowalewski family to bring their loved one back.

You chose poorly all the way around skipper.  

May the price you pay coincide with your choices and ramifications of that fateful day.  

AMAZING!!! Days later and the young boy still hasn't been officially charged!
If it were me, an average person that doesn't come from wealth, family political pull and doesn't have a lawyer on call (at 1a.m.), then my name and picture would be on the front page of every paper and the top story on the news.
God bless and comfort the Kowalewski family.

As a retired state trooper , this sounds like a cover-up for some one of notoriety. It's too bad that the state police are the one's that are going to suffer the consequences

Ryan Oliver,

Please accept my deepest sympathy for this tragic loss.

I was going to mention something my cousin had done at his wedding but it seems Scouter Mom has a better idea.

My cousin had a photo of our Uncle who is no longer with us at his wedding. He had checked with the family on a good photo of him and I came across one of our uncle holding my cousin (one who was getting married).

i think Scouts mom's idea is better, he may not be there physically but he will in Spirit.

As for the alledged driver, you can go to peoplefinder and put his name in.It will  show any possible relatives.(Including father) I did a google on his fathers name and found where he wroks at or he owns the company.

the sun  sets in the west , if there was any sun. the majority of crimes today are committed by kids between the ages of 15-25; thats 80 percent in the united states. i stated this months ago  and warned of the recklessness and lack of respect young adults have for others. how many more innocent people have to die before our law makers, parents and responsible laww enforcement start making changes to improve a fading society. death penalty is not the answer; also this is not premeditated or in commission of a felony;  definetly  first degree manslaughter; why dont we get together as a people and make a committement to help our youth. throw away the technology, get out and smell the roses and enjoy the land and the sea again ; it can only help; also major restrictions on driving cars and boats.

THIS WAS NO ACCIDENT!!!!!!!!!! When there is an accident the responsible parties stop to help each other. This was down right hit and run. If the driver was under the influence, he should have at least been man enough and not the low scum that he is. Don't expect money and daddy to get you out of it. I feel that everyone on that boat shoud be held responsible as the drive for your failure to turn around to help that man in distress. All of the excuses in the world will not clear you of your lack of respect for the VICTOM. As to the DA, WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU? If I were in this drivers shoes, you would have thrown the book at me and then some. So what is behind it. Is the sun in you eyes? The Community is watching you on this one. Were you bought out?

Maybe not popular, but why don't we just ban all motorboats, except for search and rescue? Really, they are not necessary, they pollute the water and environment, and people get stupid and drunk. There are still other choices, sailboats, the recent solarboat that passed through, canoes, and kayaks and rowboats. Not only will it be much safer, but better for the earth and us all. I won't even go on a lake anymore that allows motorboats because so many I have seen are inconsiderate of other boaters, and downright dangerous.

My sincerest condolences to the victim's family. To the lovely granddaughter, honor your grandpa by living your life and marriage as he lived his. Make him proud. He will live on in you.

To the people in the boat, and the driver:
How could you leave a dying innocent man? How could you? For hours and hours. Selfish, cowardly, and evil comes to mind.

It saddens me so that Mr. Kowalewski lost his life in such a senseless way. It further saddens me to know his family just seven short years prior lost their Mother, grandmother and his wife, to another stupid act of recklessness in a parking lot.
We all have our opinions and the right to express them as we see fit. That said, I am going to exercise my right....
My husband owns an 18ft boat, I have been on that lake fishing or just enjoying a rear sunny day in  Syracuse many many times. Many many times there has been some dink that is going way to fast, way to close. When you hit the wake created by that boat you feel it. Now, lets just say, the sun was in the drivers eyes. Lets just (ass)u(me) there were no ability altering drugs involved, lets just say it truly was an accident.
They hit that boat w/ such force it launched over it like it was a ramp. Now, a normal reaction would be turn and look to see what caused you to go airborne. Sun would no longer be in yer eyes right, because you have turned around to look behind you. Sun?I don't think so, no impairment? Not, accident? not by my definition. I dunno if this kids name is Brad, Bob or simply Little ***. The fact is they KNEW Full well they hit another boater. What they didn't know is if they had Killed anyone or  just injured someone. The sickening fact is they, NONE of them, had the human decency to do ANYTHING  to check on the human being in that boat.
I donut know if Little *** went to the casino, what I do know is he didn't go to get help. What I believe is this, there was drugs of one form or another involved. Most likely alcohol. hence the amount of time before Papa called Pieamonte. Who by the way remarked on T.V. tonight that it would be absurd to think there was some kind of cover up. Hey Pieamonte what is absurd is that your client has no soul or regard for the life of anyone other than himself.....
The death penalty, I dunno I think they should all live to a ripe old age knowing they caused the death of a happy healthy 85 year old man just out enjoying a day on the lake doing what he loved most.
If these kids don't go to jail for a very long time because somebody is papered up, then we all have a big problem.....

Rest in peace John. To all your family, my heart feels your grief. I hope you can find some comfort in knowing how many of us are reaching out to you all..............

They haven't even interviewed this little ***** yet?! What the @%#*?!  And why isn't the DA releasing names? Oh I forgot, this is the same county that had a police chief accused of possessing stolen property, a mayor mis-using over $3500 in taxpayer dollars for 'questionable' expenses and also had charges of soliciting sex with two underage girls on a cell phone that was paid for by the city, a police captain arrested for stalking his ex-girlfriend, and a city parks superintendent arrested for allegedly communicating indecently by email with 12 to 14-year-old girls. And this DA also had 2 DWI offenders walk because he couldn't be bothered to charge them within the time statute.

Sounds like a bunch of winners up there.

And Dodd is runing for re-election. We are watching you Mr Dodd. Isnt there laws on the water about hit and run? Especially in a death.

I think Oswego County is covering something up, and if not maybe we need to elect a new DA. This is total crap that no one has been charged as of yet.

What a sick depraved person to know they hit another boat. Sun in the eye my A$$, anyone with common sense knows to slow down. When visiblity is poor, more like trashed from drugs or booze. Was the reason his vision was impared. I have one question, what is wrong with this county. With in a month 3 people are murdered on the water. Murdered is the right description, you hit and run its murder. How can this wait and have a lawyer turn in a client hrs later? Where is the DA? Its all because of who you know? Both cases need to be investigated, I smell a huge rat. I hope I get a chance to be on any of the juries. If there ever is a trial....and justice is done

I would like to send my condolences to the Kowalewski family in this very difficult time. I am not at all sticking up for the driver and for what he did but I AM a close friend of his. I want to clear it up that his family does NOT have money or popularity so stop thinking that is the reason why his name is not being released. Yes a 21 year old has a boat...wow, how spoiled? but i guess you could say he spoiled himself. Hes a good kid in college who pulls a GREAT GPA in school and works fulltime to afford his own place and things he enjoys. His name is no way being covered up for money reasons. The other young men and women on the boat are also kids from many universities around NY and are also sitting on great GPA's and working with great internships. YES he made a mistake, a big one that he definately will pay for in time but to attack his family and friends is just unreasonable like they were the ones to drive the boat. I have spoken to him and he is so upset and withdrawn from everyone because of this accident, i am no way condoning what he did especially leaving the scene of the accident but you have to stop attacking his family. I feel the only reason why they havent released the name is because i know that all of the people on the boat being interviewed might have changed up stories, and some didnt match up with other's stories. Thank you for your time and once again,my DEEPEST sympathy to the victim's family.

"The other young men and women on the boat are also kids from many universities around NY and are also sitting on great GPA's and working with great internships?"

Having a great GPA didn't make them smart enough to stop and help?

There must be some other reason this info has not been released.  The people on that boat in skaneatelas - people said they had money and connections - yet their names were released before the investigation was even complete!  They named the brother driving the boat before hearing any other statements.  and the only person that ran from that boat was the driver - all other occupants waited at the camp and cooperated fully (except the brother - who tried to cover for his brother)

My sympthays to the family .  To those resonsible for this accident you all should be punished including the boat owner. Letting unresonsable pepole opperate your boat  was your resonabilite and you also failed as did your son. All aboard the boat your all COWARDS!!!!!!!!!!

NO MONEY?   NO COVERUP GOING ON?  SUN IN THE EYES??? BULL SH!$  I LIVE ON THE LAKE THERE WAS NO SUN FROM ABOUT 3:30 THAT AFTERNOON. THERE WAS AN EXTREMELY OVERCAST SKY AND A LIGHT HAZE OVER THE LAKE,  SINCE I AM ABOUT 2 MILES AWAY FROM FRENCHMANS ISLAND I KNOW FOR A FACT THERE WAS NO SUN OVER THERE EITHER...

OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK......  AND THEY WONDER WHY PEOPLE DONT VOTE. WHY WOULD THEY THE CANDIDATES/ OFFICIALS SEEM TO BE CORRUPT...

It should never take this long to find out who was the driver of this boat, I see a cover up. I just feel bad for the familys.

It is not a great example we set for the young people who think our world is full of hypocrits run by dishonest politicians for their own purposes.  This reminds me of the recent case where a 17yr old shot his 18yr old girlfriend in the face and the story was misreported much of the time due to the spin put on it by the DA office because the kid had school friends whose relatives worked in the DA office, County police, and school system.  Perhaps the adults should pay more attention to their children before something heinous happens and not provide them with such elaborate toys so they don't have to play coverup.

I see this as an Oswego County Keystone Cops condition.

Oswego County DA - He let 2 DWI cases walk free cause he was "too busy".

Can Oswego County do anything right?

For the sake of Mr. K's Family, I hope he gets this one right.

"I have spoken to him and he is so upset"-a friend...

If he or any of the other 7 on board are upset, then they should at least attend Mr. K's calling hours.  Tell the family how sorry they are to their faces.  Maybe they have already, I don't know.

Unfortunate this happended in the first place.  Prayers to the family for their lost loved one.  Too bad this occurred in Oswego County.  Defense Lawyer must be encouraged it is not under Onondaga County DA Jurisdiction.  I get frustrated hearing Lawyers being given air time in media to build their cases, and try out their defenses.  A plus here though is, the Defense lawyer is already on record stating "environmental conditions"...two things:  1)  Lawyer has already shown his hand, and it is an excuse for the accident, it is not justification for the reaction to leave the scene...Environmental conditions did not cause the driver to leave the scene, and not render immediate assistance.  2)  Environment did not cause witnesses to collude and not report, and/or report falsely.  I'm not enforcement, or law, but seems like there is a growing number of chargeable offenses and criminally negligent individuals cropping up here.  To close, try to keep in mind, a human being who was deserving of a longer life, and more time with his family is no longer here.  Again, my prayers for the family and Mr. K.

To me this is so frustrating.  I am the soon to be sister in law of Mr. K's granddaughter.  To have your perfectly healthy grandfather taken from you so close to the wedding, I cant even imagine.  I keep checking the news hoping to see some results, something that might create some closure before this wedding.  My heartfelt prayers go to God for this family and to my brother.  Let us remember him at the wedding and enjoy this special time in your lives.  

I hope that who ever did this will be brought to justice.  Regardless of the sun or the speed or the possible drinking, you hit something, did you go back and see, maybe you did and if you knew what you did and still ran I am appalled.  

I am an avid snowmobiler, & on many many occasions have noticed the presence oswego county sheriff's patroling oneida lake on snowmobiles.  I am also a frequent boat passenger on oneida lake and have not once in approximately 10 years noticed oswego county sheriff's patroling on boats.  Perhaps if they made there presence known  Incidences such as this would not occur.

My deepest sympathies to the family of Mr K.  

This is just another example of someone's irresponsiblity and lack of regard for human life.   It really is really really disgusting. What makes matters worse is the fact that there has been no arrests.  
The driver of the boat is upset and withdrawn because of remorse???  I doubt it its because he's in trouble and afraid.... and he should be.  

Response to "A FRIEND" - good kids w/ great GPA's in school???? Apparently you don't know the meaning of "GOOD KIDS" because and GOOD KID would've stopped and helped!!!  ALL 7 of those on board knew they hit something and ALL 7 of them chose NOT to do anything except run to DADDY!!!!  You say he doesn't come from money? Good, I hope you're right, cuz he deserves everything that is coming to him.... He was the "Captain" of that boat and now he's just a little Coward, running......  Try another excuse Skipper - the sun in your eyes???  There was no sun that day!!!!! My deepest sympathy to Mr. K's family and friends.

snogrl..."...I am also a frequent boat passenger on oneida lake and have not once in approximately 10 years noticed oswego county sheriff's patroling on boats.  Perhaps if they made there presence known  Incidences such as this would not occur."...

Just what the Defense will try use...should have been someone there to stop this...  try to turn the defendant into a victim.

Do you not see Law Enforcement when you drive your car yet decide to obey the law and do the right thing???

Illegal activity occurs all over this United States.  Law enforcement is increasingly stretched, and constrained, but still manages to do a great job.  No, I am not Law.

There absolutely has to be a focus on the fact that there appears to be an illegal leaving the scene of a fatality (minimum), and what appears to be obstruction has, and is occurring.  

Maybe the lawyer is liking only having his name mentioned repeatedly. Sounds like free advertisement to me.. Even if he isnt very good.. His name is still being shown over and over again. I notice that this comment site took off the name of the driver. I wont repost it again however I would like to mention that he is on facebook with pictures of him on his boat drinking bud light out of a coozie. Maybe the DA should look into that. If they put a little effort into their jobs perhaps 5 days later people wouldnt still be sitting here wondering whats hindering this investigation. I guess you have to be a injured police officer or state trooper for anything to actually happen. Its pretty sad.

Another response to "A FRIEND"...............i know you said "it doesn't make what they did right and its no excuse blah blah blah blah blah"   PUHLEASE!!! these kids parents should be ashamed!! these "kids" should be ashamed of themselves!! 7 kids thats SEVEN KIDS!! and not one even thought to break away from the pack stand up for human decency and help this poor man.  I know Mr. Kowalewski died instantly but that is not the point!! Understand something here "A FRIEND"  having a good GPA or a great internship means nothing in this world, so you can tell "your friend" to just save the pity party! i'm not buying..........a good, kind and decent person stops to help someone in need even when they are in the wrong.  But this is your youth of America ladies and gentlemen! Bravo Bravo!  You've seperated church from state, taken God out of our pledge of allegiance, stopped prayer in our schools, overdosed, overdrugged, over fed, and over spoiled our young people, youve taken away consequences, divorced your husbands, divorced your wives, broken up families, given them the media, stuffed their pockets with green, taken away family values and yet you still ask God to bless America??!! Are you crazy???? God will again bless this nation when we stop ignoring Him!  

The best job, the most money, the best lawyers, and showing remorse do not make you a good person!  Tell your "friend" to do an interview....or something, show his face to this family that is hurting so badly!! Each one of these 7 need to stop lying, stop changing stories to cover their butts, and start owning up to the fact that they did a horrible thing and that their lives will never be the same again! its over for you, you made your bed.......this will haunt you and be with you till the day that you die,  your GPA and internship and all you worked for was for not! In one day, In one moment it was swallowed because you can't escape this label forever.  Let the investigators do their job, let the DA bring charges when they have the facts.  lets be patient because his and their names are going to come out soon.  Be Patient! its coming people, justice will be given!

I pray that God will one day again bless America!  its starts with you! PRAY

RESPONSIBILITY>  YOU ARE COMPLETELY MISUNDERSTANDING MY COMMENTS. I AM IN NO WAY TURNING THE DEFANDANT IN TO A VICTIM. I HOPE HE/SHE IS PUNNISHED TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW ALONG WITH THE PASSENGERS OF THAT BOAT.  IN MY OPINION THEY ARE IN THE WRONG AS WELL.

WHAT I AM SAYING IS; "SOME STUPID YOUNG PEOPLE  NEED TO SEE THAT THERE IS POLICE PRESENCE IN ORDER FOR THEM TO  OBEY THE LAW.  HAVENT YOU EVER HEARD THE EXPRESSION 'WHEN THE CATS AWAY THE MICE WILL PLAY?'  THAT IS ALL I AM REFERRING TO...  I THINK THIS IS THE MENTALITY WE ARE DEALING WITH.  

To the "friend" of the boater-- He's going to need all the friends he can get right now because all I can see are enemies. You said he feels bad. Did he fee bad enough to go back and check on poor Mr. Kowalewski? Did he feel bad enough to call for help? NO!!!!!!!!!! He only feels bad because he knows eventually he will pay for his crime. That is if the DA has a set of ba**s. Like I've said before he prosicutes people that shouldn't be prosicuted like the 17yr old that was mentioned in a previous post that accidently shot his girlfriend. That was an accident and he went to prison. That whole thing was blown out of proportion because of what other people said about him. He's a good kid and didn't deserve that. He loved her. Now you get these idiots driving reckless and carelessly in a boat, killing someone and never looking back. That's murder. They are the ones that should go to jail. I don't care what his GPA is . What's his common sense level?  A big fat 0!

I have a strong feeling the driver and those in the boat already know "yes,"  there is a police presence...

I'm guessing the people involved have always known there were laws, but just because they didn't read them, doesn't mean they don't apply.

RE:  "NEED TO SEE THAT THERE IS POLICE PRESENCE..."    Still stuck on trying to justify or explain why they would try to do what they did (collusion ,and leaving the scene)?

Yes, I am prodding here, but it has absolutely zero rellevance wether they saw police, or not.  Laws are laws wether you know someone is watching.

I agree while the cat's away...but, again it has nothing to do with law,  cats could be parents too.

How much beer did the kids drink?

You want to know why he was hiden away from the troopers for so long by his Daddy and lawyer Sal?   .. to be able to drink a whole lot of coffee.

The kid driving the boat is a BUM and a LOSER and so are his friends, his father and lawyer !

Stand up kid, be a man.  YOU KILLED someone.   Take your punishment cuz you took a life.  

When the DA say there is no coverup, I am reminded of the old adage: Thou dost protest to much

OK ..... ENOUGH OF THIS...YOU KNOW & I KNOW AS GROWN ADULTS, I AM ASSUMING YOU ARE NOT IN YOUR 20'S ANYMORE LAWS ARE LAWS AND ARE MEANT TO BE OBEYED, BUT WHEN YOU ARE PRESUMABLY DRUNK OR ON DRUGS. AND IN YOUR 20'S, ONE WILL GET AWAY WITH WHAT ONE CAN IF ONE THINKS THAT NO ONE IS WATCHING,.

Brad Bouthillier -- 21 from Cicero is the driver.

A good kid?  He's NOT a good kid.  He's a murderer.  

He's feels bad?   He "feels upset and withdrawn from everyone because of this accident?"

Dear "A Friend", tell your friend how Mr. Kowalewski feels.  OH WAIT HE'S DEAD and your friend KILLED HIM !  Never mind.

Instead tell him how Mr. Kowalewski's friend feels.  

Daniella Sevillie, Lindsey Nosko, John Anthony, I dont know who else. Not all are 21.

What scares me is that this person can drive acr if he will do this with a boat what would he do wit a car if he hit someone.

Brad Bouthillier -- 21 from Cicero was the main driver, it is his dads boat, one of the girls was sitting on his lap, so possibly 2 drivers, they left 3 mile bay at 4:30 hammered, flying, everyone left boat to dry out, Brad took boat home and got rid of alchol, he took off to Casino to hide out until his parents got him a lawyer, other people on boat. Daniella Sevillie, Lindsey Nosko, John Anthony, I dont know who else. Not all are 21. From syracuse.com

It's nice to read that the guy who killed Mr. Kowalewski may turn himself in to police today.  

What it wasn't a nice enough day today to go for another boat ride with friends and doing lines of coke?

What scares me is that this person can drive car if he will do this with a boat what would he do with  a car if he hit someone.

Daniella Sevillie, Lindsey Nosko, John Anthony need to get to jail too !

hammered, flying, everyone left boat to dry out, Brad took boat home and got rid of alchol?  

I'm shocked.   And here we all were thinking that these kids were 'good kids'.  

Sad.

But did this kid and kids stand up themselves OR have Daddy do it for 'em?

I agree with you about the facebook comment. I did notice that he took off all pictures showing him drinking both at parties, home, or on the boat. But i did see them before. I would say that there should be a website or email address so those people that have or may have any pictures taken or would like to mention something can give information. I know that I do have some pictures showing him and his friends drinking I dont have respect for people like him and i hope that someone will be able to look at the pictures and realize that its not the first time he has been drinking and driving on his boat/his fathers boat..And yes the picture i saved was only those where him as well as friends are drinking aboard the boat. Showing beer in HIS hands. So Sal.. i would like to see you turn around and say that this was the first time he had a beer or two while driving.. BULL... He does it all the time.. I would know.. I've seen it first hand .. I know other people that have been around him while at Sylvan Beach etc.. have taken pictures too... so im not the only one with pictures of this.. who knows maybe there are pictures of the very day  the incident happened. ----**This needs to be addressed!!!!!!!!

Driver hid out at the casino until daddy could get him a lawyer. What a stand-up guy. He's an adult, not a kid!

A Cicero man is expected to be arraigned in Constantia town court at 2 p.m. today in connection with a fatal boating crash on Oneida Lake last week.

Defense lawyer Salvatore Piemonte said he was asked to have his client in court today. He refused to name the defendant, but said he expects him to be charged with leaving the scene of an accident and something related to having caused the fatal crash itself.

Piemonte said he worked out the surrender arrangements with the Oswego County District Attorney's Office. If the arraigning judge agrees with the arrangements, Piemonte expects his client will be freed after the arraignment.

Piemonte said he planned to surrender his client to state police in time for them to get the defendant to court for the 2 p.m. appearance.

BRAD... SHAME SHAME SHAME... 'TOOK BOAT HOME, GOT RID OF BOOZE THEN WENT TO CASINO'  HOPE YOU HAD A GREAT TIME. CAUSE I'M THINKING THERE IS NO WAY YOUR GETTING OUT OF THIS ONE... AND IF YOU DO GET OFF IT WILL BE A  TERRIBLE MISJUSTICE...

DANIELLA, LINDSEY, JOHN AND OTHER PASSENGERS.  I HOPE YOU GO DOWN WITH YOUR BIG,COOL BUDDY BRAD.  NOT HAVEING SO MANY LAUGHS NOW ARE YA?

I WILL PRAY THAT GOD HAS MERCY ON YOUR SOULS...

THAT POOR NICE MAN HAD TO SUFFER BECAUSE OF YOUR STUPIDITY!

I THINK YOU PEOPLE SUCK!  & I HOPE YOU ROT IN HELL. YOU MAKE OTHER'S YOUR AGE LOOK BAD.

2 words
Drunk
Coward

Big Brad ?  oh no, not Brad, I never would have thought you would get caught, let alone kill someone.  

Brad old buddy, you make driving a boat drunk with your dumba** buddies and (censored) look bad.

Thanks for tarishing the imagine pal.

Oh say hi to Sal.

CASINO?  the KID went to the CASINO .. ??? OH NO, HIS FAMILY HAS NO MONEY!
COVER UP, OH NO THERE'S NO COVER UP!!!

WHOOOOOOOOOOOO RUNS TO THE CASINO?

THE CASINO????????????????????????????????????

I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION ~ HOW IS IT THAT 'BRAD' CAN TURN HIMSELF IN AT HIS LEISURE?  THE AUTHORITIES KNOW HIS NAME AND WHERE HE LIVES. WHY DON'T THEY GO GET HIM? AND TAKE HIM AWAY IN CUFFS & SHACKLES NO WAIT MAYBE HE SHOULD BE HOG TIED LIKE THE ANIMAL THAT HE IS ... AFTER ALL HE TOOK THE LIFE OF MR K.   MR K DIDNT HAVE A CHANCE TO SAY GOOD BYE TO HIS FAMILY LIKE 'BRAD' DOES...

AGAIN, MY SINCERE CONDOLENCES TO MR KOWELSKI'S FAMILY.   I HOPE JUSTICE IS SERVED.

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Hopefully while at the casino he didn't play a round of golf, but if he did hopefully he walked and didn't DRIVE a golfcart, cuz Bradley may have KILLED SOMEONE on the fairway as well.

I TAKE IT, YOU IN SHOCK THAT HE RAN TO THE CASINO???

WHY??
WHY??
WHY??

OF COURSE HE RAN TO THE CASINO THIS COLLEGE EDUCATED MURDERER NEEDED MONEY FOR HIS DEFENSE ITS OBVIOUS.

ANYWAY, MAYBE HE THOUGHT HE COULD HIDE OUT THERE WITHOUT GETTING ARESTED IT IS AN INDIAN NATION ISNT IT?  SEE HOW STUPID HE IS???

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All these kids have always been trouble. Not surprising, but people and parents will never learn.

It is sad.

this is a simple case of 1st degree manslaughter; a reckless, anal retentive, swouless kid and acomplices; these kind of people appear in all forms; college, inner city ,suburbia etc. theres no stopping this decimationof civilization thats been happenning for the last 25-30 years. check the crime stats out it will verify everything i said corrupt politicians, lack of respect for what got us here, technology ,over exposureof media, fanatic christian groups, fringe black racists, white racists; theres no real solution to stop this maLIGNANT CANCER THATS IN OUR SOCIETY. love ,reaching out to help one another; remember martin luthor king; every one is equal as a human being and should live together as one; seems like his own people never listened; give these kids 7-15 in jail and a public humiliation to teach them something.

BUT WHY NOT RUN TO CANADA, OR SOMETHING FAR FAR FAR AWAY?  
HIDE OUT IN A FRIENDS' BASEMENT, UNDER A CAR, UP A TREE, BUT IN PUBLIC?  IN THE CASINO?   WHO DOES HE THINK HE IS DONALD TRUMP?  

WELL HOPEFULLY HE'S PEEING IN HIS PANTS EVERY OTHER HOUR OR SO .. HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA

Brad will get 7 to 15, with time off for good behavior, and (post censored due to content)

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Well if he can turn himself  in when he wants then they truly aren't going to press to hard to send him to prison.  So he DROVE approx 50 minutes or so  to get to Casino???? Kind of out of the way isn't it?   So maybe he has a gambling problem too.   Then has all the time in the world to surrender.  Bet the bail is already agreed upon too like $500.00 not 1 Million like it should be.  This will be interesting but I don't think we will see the punishment that he and his friends deserve.  They are already being pampered and will continue to see the same.  

As for Friend who says they get good grades and good internships - Wow can't be that smart- sorry buddy - LOSERS!!!!!  Get  7 new friends - They are all responsible.  5 hours went by before notifying anybody - - 5 HOURS -------

Dear Mad,
Check out "theyre all crazy drunks said:" and the pixs posted.
THESE AREN'T GOOD KIDS.
THESE ARE BRATS AND DRUNKS AND WHORES AND PUNKS.

TR

North Syracuse (WSYR-TV) - State Police have arrested and charged a 21-year-old with Criminally Negligent Homicide, and leaving the scene of a Fatal Boating Accident.

Brad Bouthiller, 21, of Thompson Road in Cicero is scheduled to be arraigned Tuesday afternoon at 3pm in Constantia Town Court.

Stay with NewsChannel 9 and 9wsyr.com for much more on this story throughout the day.

Bruce And Linda Bouthillier 8035 Thompson Road CICERO, NY 13039.

People need to stop making excuses for this kid...saying the sun was in his eyes and it is hard to judge distance and what not on the water....then he SHOULD GET OFF THE WATER if you can't tell that you are going stright for a boat. If the sun is in your eyes then SLOW DOWN.  and he is a disgusting person for leaving an 85 yr old man for dead.

"They're all crazy drunks"
I will assume these are the troublesome crowd that was all on the boat?  Nice group of drunk hookers there I must say... hope you all had a good time underage drinking and taking the life of an innocent man!  Worthless waste of a breath and time on this thread.  Hope your daddy and public figure can't  bail your @$$ out  of this one... you deserve EVERYTHING that is handed to you!

You ALL should pay for what was done.. every last one of you!

Thoughts and prayers with the victim's family!

Police release name in fatal boating crash
Posted by Pedro Ramirez August 14, 2007 12:32PM
Categories: Breaking News, Crime & Safety, North Suburbs, Oswego County
We have been following the developing news of today's expected arraignment of a Cicero man in connection with a fatal boating crash on Oneida Lake last week. Here is the latest.

New York State Police at 12:30 have released the man's name as Brad M. Bouthillier, 21, of 8035 Thompson Road.

Bouthillier is scheduled to be arraigned at 3 p.m. in Constantia town court on felony charges of criminally negligent homicide and leaving the scene of a fatal boating accident, troopers said.

From earlier this morning:

Defense lawyer Salvatore Piemonte said he was asked to have his client in court today.

Piemonte said he worked out the surrender arrangements with the Oswego County District Attorney's Office. If the arraigning judge agrees with the arrangements, Piemonte expects his client will be freed after the arraignment.

Piemonte said he planned to surrender his client to state police in time for them to get the defendant to court.

Staff writer Jim O'Hara provided information for this update.

 

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Name of suspected driver in fatal boating accident released
Updated: 8/14/2007 12:45 PM
By: Staff

   
 
OSWEGO COUNTY, N.Y. -- Police say the driver of the boat suspected of hitting and killing John Kowalewski, 85, on Oneida Lake last week will be arraigned later today.

They say Brad M. Bouthillier, 21, of Cicero, N.Y. will be arraigned at 3 p.m. today in the town of Constantia court, for felony charges of criminally negligent homicide and leaving the scene of a fatal boating accident.

Kowalewski was killed while fishing on Oneida Lake last Thursday. Police have not yet said what they believe caused the crash.

A Cicero man will be arraigned Tuesday afternoon for his role in a deadly hit and run crash on Oneida Lake. The crash killed 85 year-old John Kowalewski while he was fishing last Thursday. 21 year-old Brad Bouthillier is scheduled to be arraigned in the Town of Constantia Court on charges of criminally negligent homicide, and leaving the scene of a fatal boating accident. We will have much more on this starting tonight at 5:00.

State Police report that Brad Bouthillier will be charged with one count of Criminally Negligent Homicide and one count of Leaving the Scene of a Fatal Boating Accident. both are felonies

Driver identified in fatal boat crash

August 14, 2007
By Rocco LaDuca



ONEIDA LAKE – State police today released the name of the man they say was driving the boat that caused a fatal collision on Oneida Lake last Thursday.

Brad M. Bouthillier, 21, of Thompson Road, Cicero, is expected to turn himself in and be arraigned at 3 p.m. in Constantia Town Court on felony charges of criminally negligent homicide and leaving the scene of a fatal boating accident, said state police Troop D public information officer Trooper Jim Simpson.

State police have said there were numerous people on the boat that crashed Thursday into another boat operated by 85-year-old John C. Kowalewski of Syracuse on the lake northeast of Cicero, near Frenchman’s Island.

Kowalewski was fishing alone in the late afternoon when his craft was struck, and the other boat left the scene, police previously said.

At about 8 p.m., other boaters noticed Kowalewski's boat adrift with significant damage, police said. His body was found inside the 19-foot Bayliner Capri, and autopsy results indicated that Kowalewski died from “multiple injuries due to a tow-boat collision.”

Check out "theyre all crazy drunks said:" and the pixs posted.

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OK... So finally we have charges "of criminally negligent homicide and leaving the scene of a fatal boating accident"

Anyone know how serious these charges are and if we can expect he gets a long time in prison if found guilty?

Brad Bouthillier - Isnt that French? They ran in WW1 ,WW2 , Iraq apparrently being a coward is just inbred, pity the poor ***.NOT!

tO   Do any of you think on your own
SO IT WAS AN ACCEIDENT HUH?   WAS it an accident to let this MAN DRINK AND DRIVE A BOAT DRUNK AND SLAM IT INTO ANOTHER BOAT KILL A MAN AND THEN GO HIDE OUT IN THE CASINO UNTIL HIS DADDY CAME AND HE SOBERED UP?  

OR YOU NUTS .. WE NEED THESE TYPE OF DRUNKS OFF OUR ROADS, OUR WATERS AND IN JAIL.    

I LOSE MY FATHER TO A DRUNK DRIVER.     HOPE YOU NEVER GO THROUGH THAT !

 Dear, Do any of you think on your own

Maybe you can be his pen pal while he sits in jail.

an accident?  it was an accident that they didn't kill more people while bombing around the lake.

let me ask all of you a ?

If you knew for a fact the this kid wasn't drinking,

WHAT ????????????????????????? WHY ELSE WOULD HE HIDE OUT FOR DAYS AND DAYS .. GET ALL THAT BEER OUT OF HIS SYSTEM.

GO HUG A TREE OR SOMETHING

I am extremely good friends with everyone on that boat, I am in some of the pictures in the links above, and whoever it is that posted those links has no idea, because 99% of those pictures don't contain any of the people that were on the boat that day.  Furthermore, the two persons who's picture websites are linked don't even live in the syracuse area anymore.  One lives in Tampa and one lives in buffalo where they both attend college, as do all 7 of the passengers on the boat that day NONE OF WHOM HAVE ANY CRIMINAL PAST.  This just goes to show you that you can have 7 good kids, abiding by the law (everyone who was drinking on that boat was over 21, to my knowledge the driver was not drinking, and no drugs were being done) and if you stop paying attention for even a few moments while operating a fast moving vehicle you can irrevocably change your life forever.  I just hope people will learn from this situation, as I know all 7 members of the boat have, and recognize this for what it was, an accident.

That is got to be the the craziest thing I have heard by Do You Think On Your Own - Oh Please that is why the world is in the state that it is in, because no body wants to accept responsibility for their actions.

Yes, maybe it was an accident but if it truly was then they should of stopped and called for help then.  Not leave for several hours and then call.

But then again when my kids did something wrong accident or not - when it deserved a punishment then they were punished.

Well this action deserves a punishment!!!! As one family has lost a love one forever!!!   Accident or not someone died because of a lack of responsibilty taken by a group of spoiled kids!!!

If it was an accident, why didn't Brad stop and help the man in the boat he hit?

AN ACCIDENT:
HOPEFULLY SOMEONE NEAR AND DEAR TO YOU DOESN'T GET KILLED IN AN ACCIDENT.

Bail denied. You are a flight risk.  Hope your lawyer gets this case to trial ASAP.

Hey "An Accident";

Go to h3ll

- they killed a man and left !  That ain't abiding by the law

IF IT WAS AN ACCIDENT WHY DIDN'T Brad M. Bouthillier, 21, of Thompson Road, Cicero TURN HIMSELF IN BEFORE TODAY?  

HE GOT DRUNK AGAIN, BUT THIS TIME HE KILLED A MAN WHO WAS FISHING ALL BY HIMSELF, BECAUSE THE WOMAN HE LOVED WAS GONE AND THAT WAS HIS LIVING BOND WITH HER.  

YOU AND BRAD DESERVE ONE ANOTHER.

"Do any of you think on your own" - You could be right saying he was drinking without knowing - maybe he did check - ok - I will give you that - He didn't call til 5 hours later.  Wasn't going to turn himeself  in right away?? - WHY?  There were other people on this boat - nobody made a call - nobody til 11 PM.   He went to the Casino - this is what is everyone so HOT!! Do you think the guy who killed two people last month on a boat would like these special priviledges?  Bet he does.   Yes parents will help - but he was legally obligated to do this in a timely manner.   Why special treatment - he is being arraigned and released - Wow- that is quick.  I hope Mr. K's family pushes for huge punishment.  He is not a good kid.  Good kids take blame for their actions and stand up- He is a coward.  And the other kids on the boat are no better.  They didn't call either.  Whether he was alive or dead they are responsible and they knew that.  What worse is nobody will ever know the TRUTH!! They have had almost a week to come up with a great story and make sure everyone sticks to it.  Very sad - sad- I hope people in his area never let him forget about it - EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BAil deNiED? .. why where's he going .. ? the Casino ?? hahaha

Yes it was a Accident. No matter how you put. A Accident is when something happens that you didnt expect. There is no way to justify his actions. He should have stoped and called 911 and faced it like a man. but at the end of the day that person would have still been dead. And as far as going to the casino his father more than likely put him there until he could get him some sound legal advice. As i hope all of you would for your children. Every one is so quick to judge. This is a 21 year old kid that will have to live with this for the rest of his life. And probably spend a good amount of time in jail also. I never once said that he shouldnt be punished. But you are all out for blood. Let me ask you a question. what make this any worst that Danielle Breeman when she was drunk and hit a phone pole and Killed her best friend. Was it that she didnt leave. But you have to remember they had to cut her out of the car so really she couldnt have but what says she wouldnt if possible. Just to let you know she was sentenced to 6 months in jail and only served 4. And i am sorry you lost you farther to a drinking and driving accident i really am . But to look for blood from a kid ... That right a kid i am not the one who has been calling that. I as far as i am concerend. Most of Us and i do me us are hipocrits. He could have crashed sober as far as we know. And 99% of us speed every day so what you are saying when we get a speeding ticket it should really be a attempted murder charge because we might hit some one and might kill some one..


Further is you really feel that this wasnt a Accident. I feel that your iq isnt high enought to be posting on here and you should throw your computer out the window . Hope fully the family of Mr. K can see the is just a really bad Accident and someday find it in there heart to forgive this " KID"

I don't care if he went to the Casino or the Mall or back to a bar.  HE SHOULD HAVE TRIED TO HELP.  HE SHOULD HAVE CALL THE POLICE.  AND ALL THE OTHER ADULTS ON THAT BOAT (CUZ THEY ARE NOT KIDS REMEMBER) SHOULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING BESIDES FOR HIDING.

in reference to [ do any of you think on his own]; its obvious you dont. quit defending the guilty. one mistake; how do you know; people who run and hide , appear three days later with a lawyer, rather than attend to the poor man he ran over [accidentally]. innocent until proven guilty; the new war cry for the blatantly guilty; if a man is trully innocent he wouldnt have run. now in his defense , innocentr till proven guilty. do you notice in society, people who the facts and truth warrant an indictment, now everyone says innocent till proven guilty. im sick of this lame excuse for guilt , read my previuos statement , it covers all the ground, if you say hes innocent , i hope you serve 7-15 with him in jail; dont forget bubba.

a 21 year old MAN

Brad Ran - He never took personal responsibility for his actions.  How could you hit a boat and keep going?  How on God's green earth could you think this is ok?  He knew what he did - they all knew.  He ran like a rotten little sh!t.

Further is you really feel that this wasnt a Accident

nice grammer

Really ok i guess the 3 passangers who saw a trooper car and went and told him what happened never happened, oh and the kids lawyer calling the police saying who he was and he wants to meet with them never did either, and it was the police that didnt meet with him. but this might all be miss information

thats a load of crap that they werent on there...

first of its been stated daniela was on the boat. which she commented last week to brad that they should go outon the boat

shes in the pictures

so is lindsay nosko

so nice try,...  

goes to show the type of person YOU are.. those pictures are just so innocent and sweet.. way to go!!

Let me clear up what I was trying to say.  Yes, everyone on the boat made a huge mistake by not going back or at least calling the police.  However, they will suffer for it.  Brad is going to be in much much more trouble now than he would have been if he had just gone back and called for help.  I know it seems unbelievable that anyone could act this way, but they were all in such shock I know one person I talked to can't even remember minor details from when the boat was hit, til when they turned themselves in.  It is terrible what they did, but they will be punished for it.

Also to clear a few things up, Brad offered to turn himself in the night of the accident, the police didn't want to bring him in until the investigation was complete and charges could be filed.

Dear MR. DO ANY OF YOU THINK ON YOUR OWN:
Do you own a boat? I do. Did you read the newspaper or listen to the news? Both reports said the boater "Brad" was traveling at a high rate of speed that when he hit Mr. Kowalewski's floating boat, he flew over the boat. You can only do that if you are going too fast. If Brad is saying his vision was impaired by the sun (which I highly doubt because of other posts), then why was he going too fast? He obviously knew he hit the boat and did absolutely nothing. He didn't call for help, he ran. That my friend is wrong. Boaters help others in distress. They don't run. He ran for a reason and unfortunatley waited long enough for that reason to wear off. Those are facts, sir. There was no 911 call. That is a fact. Mr. Kowalewski was found by another boater around 8:00pm.  Did anyone else in the boat call 911? NO. They just left him there. That is another fact. So please don't talk about misinformation. Read the paper. Watch the news.

Vehicular (boating) manslaughter is a kind of misdemeanor manslaughter, which holds persons liable for any death that occurs because of criminal negligence or a violation of traffic safety laws. A common use of the vehicular manslaughter laws involves prosecution for a death caused by driving under the influence (determined by excessive blood alcohol content levels set by individual states), although an independent infraction or negligence is usually also required.

In some U.S. states, such as Texas, Intoxication Manslaughter is a distinctly defined offense. A person commits intoxication manslaughter if he or she operates a motor vehicle in a public place, operates an aircraft, a watercraft, or an amusement ride, or assembles a mobile amusement ride; and is intoxicated and by reason of that intoxication causes the death of another by accident or mistake.[1]

Intoxication manslaughter, vehicular manslaughter and other similar offenses require a lesser mens rea than other manslaughter offenses. Furthermore, the fact that the defendant is entitled to use the alcohol, controlled substance, drug, dangerous drug, or other substance is not a defense.[2] For example, in Texas, to prove intoxication manslaugher it is not necessary to prove the person was negligent in causing the death of another, only that they were intoxicated and operated a motor vehicle and someone died.

in regard to 'do you ever think on your own'...  i dont think your IQ is big enough because especially to be posting here because:
1.  you have poor grammer
2.  you cant spell
3.  IDIOT!

Accident - They were abiding by the law?  - What part?  They   HIT AND RUN- And to say only the ones that were 21 were drinking - Ok - sure- Have kids under 21 - know that statement is a joke.

Now I don't own a boat but I do believe you are supposed to slow down when you pass a boat that isn't moving - Saw the pictures - HMMM damage is pretty bad - but since they are your friends I can understand you sticking up for them.  You get to live with that also. They all did  a bad thing, but they have to live with that on their minds .  Once all the names come out their lives will change forever, and so will yours.  Good luck.

it'll be a 'mistake' went they let Brad out in 7 to 10 and he slams into your car/boat/bike with you riding it.

Prehaps they were all too trashed to notice they had even run over another boat.  

 DISGUSTED  .. YOU ROCK !

DEAR MAD
GO AWAY your views are messed up as is your life and future.

lindsay nosko was not on the boat, and those are picture albums of danielas best friends so obviously she is going to be in them, but honestly all of you were 19-24 before, do those pictures look any different than what you were doing around that time?  At least every person on that boat was in college and trust me, I know them all, they are all great kids, who made a huge mistake that they are going to have to live with the rest of their lives

is MAD just playin us for fools?

Bradley killed someone while DRUNK !

We have a problem today - everyone only cares about themselves.  Kids couldn't care less about other people as long as they get what they want.  Wake up people.  Stop the fricking selfishness.

This whole Brad thing just reinforces the point - he didn’t go back - why not - because it's all about ME.  We need to start caring about something other than our own pleasures.

Oh please, talk about IQ yours may be high but you lack commen sense in dealing with reality.

At least Danielle Breeman and her friend had a choice, about doing something stupid and fortunately they didn't hurt or kill anyone else.  but they still had a choice for the actions they commited and yes she should of had a harder sentence then she received.

As for Mr. K he had no choice in the matter.  These kids being irresponsible killed someone, accident or not.  So please use some commen sense, but now a days every one expects something as they are never at fault and always want to beat the system.  

Courts needs to take a tougher stand and stop plea bargaining because everybody thinks they can make a deal.  As for Mr. K he is unable to make any kind or deal,

But that is OK right as it was an accident by a kid, so let's just forgive and forget, OH PLEASE NOW!!!

Stop while you're behind.  Your budddy Brad's a piss hole and should have gone back.

The more you try to justify his actions, the worst you sound.

An accident
something they will have to live with for the rest of their lifes?

ARE YOU NUTS?..  This gentle soul of a man is DEAD .. YOU and your adult friends KILLED HIM AFTER DRINKING A WHOLE LOT OF BEER (AGAIN).  

TRUST ME .. YOUR DAY WILL COME TO.

WALK UP .. WE ARE NOT GOING TO LET YOU KEEP KILLING US!

STOP CALLING THEM KIDS.

A 11 YEAR OLD, A 5 YEAR OLD, A 17 YEAR OLD IS A KID.

A 21 YEAR OLD AND HIS FRIENDS ARE ADULTS GOING TO REAL JAIL CELLS

TR:  THANKS...  I'M SORRY I COULDNT HOLD BACK.

MAD:    YES YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO SLOW DOWN IF APPROACHING ANOTHER BOAT MOVING OR NOT. THATS A COMMON COURTESY.

OH, I FORGOT THESE KIDS ARE NOT COURTEOUS, OR PERHAPS THEY WOULD HAVE STOPPED TO CHECK ON THE MAN.

STOP KILLING US, WE'RE BETTER THAN YOU.  MURDER, MANSLAUGHTER IS NOT AN ACCIDENT YOU SICKO LOSER

I have my boat at a local Brewerton marina.  Thankfully Mad's friends are up a creek without a bottle of Bud, cuz I don't want my son and daughter killed by them when we go boating this weekend.

To "close friend of everyone on the boat":  Pray hard for your friends because they really screwed up!  They made themsleves look guilty whether they were or not!  They ran!! what a horrible, sick thing to do!  7 kids, 7 kids of privelege obviously have enough money to go to college, none of which owns a cell phone????  "WOW ladies and gentlemen!! STEP RIGHT UP! ENJOY THE SHOW!! This is your one and only chance to see seven young adults on a boat that don't have cell phones!!!"  i'd buy tickets to see that show cause its not happening!! I bet every single one of them has a cell phone and most suredly had it on them that fateful day.  

Lets Recap:

Seven young adults on a boat, cloudy, slightly overcast afternoon thursday afternoon.................

Drinking or not they are driving awfully fast, fast enough to cause their boat to"fly over" a boat of very similiar size.

sometime between 4-6 their boat crashes into John Kowalewski's vessel

They say to themsleves "oh my god" and "what did you do?" or "what did we hit?"

They turn back against the supposed "sun in there eyes" and see a badly damaged boat and no one standing there as Mr. Kowalewski was undoubtedly knocked down.

Lets say they went back just for the sake of it, maybe they did!?

They saw a man laying there and said to themselves "we are in some deep $____", or "maybe nobody saw what happened" "lets get out of here"

IRREGARDLESS........of whether any of that is true, they knew they hit a boat and they knew somebody was on it, peoples boats aren't just floating on the water abandoned, thats what docks are for!

So hours go by they hide the boat and go home, with very little damage to their ship they think "maybe we will get away with this, they can't prove anything"

A few of the kids see the evening news only to find that a man is now dead on onieda lake.  their guilty conscience finally gets to them and then and only then do they call authorities admitting to being on the boat meanwhile the driver of the boat is at home checking his facebook and myspace which he undoubtedly just made private as i found them and checked them a couple hours ago.  He then hangs out at home for a few days

I can only imagine the arguments and strategizing that have gone on in that house on thompson road the last few days.  meanwhile Brad is able to turn himself into authorities 5 says later at his only leisure

Since when does "your friend" the defendant get to call all the shots

Brads lawyer then gets to go on the news making himself look like an idiot of grand proportions, claiming environmental factors and all that bull.  You use those kind of defenses when you have nothing and are grasping at straws!

So in conclusion a kind old man is dead, Brad bouthillier was driving the vessel that killed him and he should be punished.   Drinking, drugs, girl on his lap, sun in eyes, faulty boat mechanics...........i don't care about the details all i know is that this was no accident, if he stayed with the body and called 911 i might believe you but he did not, none of them did, they were stupid!

Nothing can change the past, but i hope they never forget the past.

No I am not playin' for fools.  I was pointing out  what "Accident" said and saying either way they all did a BAD, BAD thing and he/she is sticking up for them.  He/She has to live with that also.  He/She  said they are abiding by the LAW -  My question was what part?   I have kids don't tell me they weren't all drinking -  I agree that kids today only think about themselves also stated by HELP.  Seven people - nobody made a call.  All Losers - All deserve the worst that our justice will give - which is nothing  compared to the victim and his family.  They ran period.  An for Accident to say he wasn't drinking - Well then how did he not know he hit a boat? - He was sober could have called. - "Accident" you are another accident waiting to happen.

I hope Bubba never forgets Brad's future

Who'll be doing the lap dances now Bubba?

All the comments and info and arguing has all been about the driver? When are they going to release any other names ? Are they being procted too ? Their names should be all over too and taking the blame too. This is so wrong, I have been on the lake my whole life and have never heard of more ignorant kids and how their parents cover for them, if this was my child he/she would have to take responsibilty for what they did !!!!!!!!!

Brad M. Bouthillier killed a man while boating DRUNK on Oneida Lake with his buddies and girlfriends.
Brad M. Bouthillier killed a man while boating DRUNK on Oneida Lake with his buddies and girlfriends.
Brad M. Bouthillier killed a man while boating DRUNK on Oneida Lake with his buddies and girlfriends.
Brad M. Bouthillier killed a man while boating DRUNK on Oneida Lake with his buddies and girlfriends.
Brad M. Bouthillier killed a man while boating DRUNK on Oneida Lake with his buddies and girlfriends.
Brad M. Bouthillier killed a man while boating DRUNK on Oneida Lake with his buddies and girlfriends.
Brad M. Bouthillier killed a man while boating DRUNK on Oneida Lake with his buddies and girlfriends.
Brad M. Bouthillier killed a man while boating DRUNK on Oneida Lake with his buddies and girlfriends.
Brad M. Bouthillier killed a man while boating DRUNK on Oneida Lake with his buddies and girlfriends.
Brad M. Bouthillier killed a man while boating DRUNK on Oneida Lake with his buddies and girlfriends.
Brad M. Bouthillier killed a man while boating DRUNK on Oneida Lake with his buddies and girlfriends.
Brad M. Bouthillier killed a man while boating DRUNK on Oneida Lake with his buddies and girlfriends.
Brad M. Bouthillier killed a man while boating DRUNK on Oneida Lake with his buddies and girlfriends.
Brad M. Bouthillier killed a man while boating DRUNK on Oneida Lake with his buddies and girlfriends.
Brad M. Bouthillier killed a man while boating DRUNK on Oneida Lake with his buddies and girlfriends.
Brad M. Bouthillier killed a man while boating DRUNK on Oneida Lake with his buddies and girlfriends.

AND ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT John Kowalewski has had his share of heartache. Nearly 7 years ago his second wife Judy was hit and killed by a pickup truck after she finished her shift at New Venture Gear.

Kowalewski’s neighbor Bette Besaw says, “I think he was very crushed mainly. Became a little more reclusive, he still managed to wave and say hi.”

John was grieving, but that never stopped him from doing things for others.

“He used to make us little puzzles at Christmas time and would actually carve it out himself and give it to us,” friend and neighbor Katie Lucio says.

John's family tells us woodworking was his winter passion. His latest design sits on his mailbox, he makes a new one every season.

Every year, as soon as spring hit, if John wasn't home, there was a good chance you could find him out fishing on his boat.  

who are the people defending this situation;friends of the guilty obviously; spreading propaganda tring to alter the facts of the case; put there owntwist and tweak on things. heres some human advise; go out lite a candle for peace and love , visit the deceased and his family at calling hours. the damage is done; your friends will pay the piper; maybe someday they will realize the pain they have caused others. the law with a high profile case like this will have to prosecute to the fullest or face an angry public . why dont you young defenders read a novel about honor and integrity; lets get back what weve lost in the last 25 years. read my blog on the deteriation of america , thank you

Julie F: thats what I mean, you think anybody wants to kill someone, you don't think every single person on that boat is going to be thinking about Mr. K for the rest of their lives.

I also never said nobody on the boat was drinking, I said everyone on the boat that was drinking was 21.  I also have said that I don't believe Brad was drinking, my reason being that I've heard from multiple people who told them he wasn't going to dirnk that day because he had a test the next day, and anyone who knwos anything about Brad knows he takes his schoolwork extremly seriously, I believe he was even first in his class

all of you are completly misinterpreting what I'm trying to do here.  I have stated it before that I am, in no way, defending what happened.  Everyone on that boat made huge mistakes and they will all pay for it.

All im trying to do is clear up all the misconceptions and unwarranted hate being thrown at Brad because everyone is assuming facts that are simply not true.

If you want to hate Brad for not turning back fine, but don't hate him for drinking/doing drugs/running from police/trying to get mommy and daddy to take the blame because all of those things are simply not true.

first in his class? first in his class?
An Accident .. ARE YOU STUPID, STONED OR OKAY STUPID.  

MAYBE THEY'LL LET HIM OFF AND I'LL LET YOU USE MY UNCLE'S BOAT AND YOU CAN GO FISHING WAITING FOR THE BIG DUMB *%^$ TO SLAM INTO YOU AFTER A FEW BEERS AND KILL YOU.  But then that will be an accident, NEVER MIND.

PS, I'M SURE IF BRAD GETS OFF HE'LL MARRY YOU AND YOU'LL HAVE LITTLE DRUNK BABIES TOGETHER.

This whole issue is a CROCK !!! Not to mention Brad's family has  $$ his father is some sort of medical rep or has some sort of shop that sells medical equipment in N. Syr on Taft Rd ( so i hear) I Hope that some Judge will take some action on all of this, because this is not the first nor will it be the last time this happens, AND where will Brad be tonight ? Home having dinner with his family ? where are the rest of the kids ? same deal !!!!! And the poor man that was killed, his family is probablly preparing the funeral and all the arragments and a wedding at the same time.

hey an accident, you're an accident waiting to happen.

I don't hate Brad.  WE hate PEOPLE WHO drive drunk and kill innocent people.   STOP KILLING US An Accident.    YOU don't deserve to KILL US anymore.  YOU'RE NOT WORTH IT !

GOD BLESS YOU KELLYAC

HEY  " An accident " - STOP - You're an idiot. Shut the h3ll up.

if he wasn't drinking then why run?, why run?, WHY RUN????!!!! You have nothing to hide when it is "an accident"  you just don't hide and call a lawyer, you don't! if you were not there then you don't know all of the facts either so be careful who and what you defend!

HEY  " An accident " - STOP KILLING US .. YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS SHOULDN'T BE KILLING US, PLEASE PLEASE STOP KILLING US !

You all have no idea how hard it is to plan a funeral at the same time as a wedding, its heartbreaking!

....a matter of time.  It was just a matter of time before this arrogant p.o.s did something like this.

So, so sad.  A beautiful person is gone and pond scum lives

YES STOP KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE AN ANCCIDENT, PLEASE DON'T KILL MORE OF US.

JULIE.. GIVE IT UP .. WE GOT UR POINT..

Julie's right, 'An Accident' don't kill more of us.  You butcher !

Julie's right, 'An Accident' don't kill more of us.  You butcher !

Botton line is anyone who either drives or boats drunk is an IDIOT !! Obivously after seeing some of the pictures on the web, these kids are at college to party, out of college to party, and will always party. I cant imagine being a parent and being so stupid and not know what your child does in and out of school ! I think Brad's father should be in just as much trouble as the rest of them you really think people believe that these kids were not drunk ? where did they but the beer from, becaue the looks of the pictures they all need to atten rehab and or get tested for a sexual transmitted disease. It was never like that when I was that age and iam not a heck of a lot older than these idiots !

You give it up WOW.  Let people greive.

YES STOP KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE AN ANCCIDENT, PLEASE DON'T KILL MORE OF US, JULIE"S RIGHT AND WOW'S KNOWS IT

you can call me an idiot, you can say what you want, but Im positive I know more about this case than any of you, and I know I know more about the people involved than any of you, so I'm guessing that if it was your son or daughter who was out on this boat you all would be singing very different tunes

and you all act like I'm saying Brad should get nothing, and that he did nothing wrong, wake up people, i am merely trying to refute false accusations

YEAH LET PEOPLE GREIVE AND SAVE YOU'RE POOR SOUL AS WELL FROM MONSTER LIKE THIS BRAD AND HIS CREW.

Cowards run and leave the scene of and accident - refute that you sh!thead

HEY AN ACCIDENT, IS YOUR SON BRAD OKAY?    WHAT ARE YOU MAKING HIM FOR DINNER TONIGHT?   A PIZZA, SOME WINGS AND A COUPLE OF BEERS?  WAKE UP YOU'RE REALLY BRAD'S MOMMY SPINNING THE PRESS IN THIS BLOG.  

GO FIX YOURSELF A SCOTCH AND LET US ALONE

  To: An Accident IS RIGHT .. refute that you piece of garbage !

Hey an accident - you aren't refruting anything.  All your doing is pissing people off.

You lying sack of . . . . . . ..

dear Julie, that's not Brad's mother, it's his ex girlfriend trying to score points in the press.  

Nice try sweetie.

I thing we all agree - An Accident needs to go away

what's your first name sweetie?
Danielle?

Well, it was not accident, if it was he none of the kids would of ran. Yeah if he was 16 and stupid, these are adults well they are suppose to be anyways. And they all knew they hit something, they should of least called 911 ASAP, weather they ran or not. Some sort of effort should of been made, they all ruined their own lives along with the man that died. Do you really think we care if you know more? Mr.  An Accident ? These kids did the wrong thing !!!!!! Feel free for all of them to sit around at a house and get loaded but stay home. Do put everyone at risk ! What would of happened if not only did Mr.K. died, but what if any of Brad's passengers died ? would of he steped up to the plate then ? would he of called 911 ? what if it was his boat that got hit ?

I see no greiving here... How bout instead of bashing An Accident .. We talk about what a nice man Mr K  was and what he did...

An Accident needs to go away!

An Accident needs to go away!

An Accident needs to go away!

An Accident needs to go away!

An Accident needs to go away!

An Accident needs to go away!

An Accident needs to go away!

An Accident needs to go away!

An Accident needs to go away!

An Accident needs to go away!

An Accident needs to go away!

Go away!

once again, KELLYAC YOU hit the nail on the head !  thank you.

Brad is not the victim here, he's the murderer.

Hey Danielle, nice pix

Friends Remember John Kowalewski
John Kowalewski has had his share of heartache. Nearly 7 years ago his second wife Judy was hit and killed by a pickup truck after she finished her shift at New Venture Gear.

Kowalewski’s neighbor Bette Besaw says, “I think he was very crushed mainly. Became a little more reclusive, he still managed to wave and say hi.”

John was grieving, but that never stopped him from doing things for others.

“He used to make us little puzzles at Christmas time and would actually carve it out himself and give it to us,” friend and neighbor Katie Lucio says.

John's family tells us woodworking was his winter passion. His latest design sits on his mailbox, he makes a new one every season.

Every year, as soon as spring hit, if John wasn't home, there was a good chance you could find him out fishing on his boat.

you're right I'm not refuting anything and I'm wasting my time.  I can tell by the way you all type and the fact that you don't understand what I'm trying to get across, that you are all too immature/ignorant to understand what my main goal here is.

My point is bad things happen to good people, good people make mistakes.  These mistakes will be paid for.

Maybe if people weren't so blood hungry and revenge oriented like all of you Brad would have had nothing to worry about and would have turned back.

So i'm done here, have fun ranting about something none of you know anything about

an accident,
you're right, Brad made a mistake and in time he will be forgiven and the good lord will see to that.  The poor boy, I can only hope he gets the help he needs to recover for killing an innocent man, after a day of drinking and BWI.  
please do not go.   forgive us all an accident.  

OR DO YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TO MAKING FRIES?

I have to agree bad things do happen to good people, good people make mistakes.. and that is what has happened here...

An Accident____ are you out of your freaking mind ????? You call any of these kids good people ? Let me guess your a good partying friend, I have done a lot of things in my life, I would of never left a man die after I just ran him over in my boat, an accident would of been no drinking involved and the boat hitting on accident becuase of the sun and stopping to call 911 and waiting for the police to show up ! what part of this whole thing are you not understanding ?

??? you are right as well.  and hopefully on your drive home tonight, someone doesn't plow into you and kill you after they have had a few too many.   sorry for upsetting you.    

I will go now.

An accident - which one are you?

Brad Bouthillier, Daniella Sevillie, Lindsey Nosko or  John Anthony

it's one of the girls of course !
I can't take this anymore .. ??? and accident have nice lifes

Lets hope not..  but thx...

or one of their parents?

Julie, we must be the stupid ones here, we really must be. Some poor inocent man went fishing, gets killed. And poor Brad ? mabybe I need to seek a conselor, and really get the real picture that this kid is an angel and he mad a boo boo !!! Are these people for real ? Hav to be drinking buddies, drink til the end

HEY ??? are you the one in the drive thru window .. FIRE IN THE HOLE !

I'm out of here 2 !

John Kowalewski was a good man, a good father, a grandfather, and a  greatgrandfather too, what a shame, in all of the ranting don't lose sight of the victim and his family that survives him.  please say a prayer for his family

Kellyac, Julie's gone.   I will save your message for her.

let's repeat that ~~~~ John Kowalewski was a good man, a good father, a grandfather, and a  greatgrandfather too, what a shame, in all of the ranting don't lose sight of the victim and his family that survives him.  please say a prayer for his family.

The kid is a fool.  Obviously he was boozing or he wouldn't have run off!  FIRST OFFENSE DWI OR BWI SHOULD BE AT LEAST 6 MONTHS IN JAIL........AUTOMATICALLY.  Then, maybe people would get a CLUE!  

and Brad M. Bouthillier, 21, of Thompson Road, Cicero will burn in hell for his crimes against such a good and decent gentleman such as John Lowalewski.

I'm outta here as well .. c ya

My heart goes out to the fisherman who was released from this world and his family.My only son was killed by a third time drunk driver and the man who did it was sentenced to three yrs probation and 6 wkends in jail. I know what hurt is.
I also have known the suspect since he knew my son.He was one of the best kids ive known . put yourself in the same position.we dont know the circumstances and we all have made bad decisions.all i mean is dont judge one another ,as we will be judged for it .

If this man had kids and they had kids and they had kids, think of how many family members and friends that are affected by this! probably alot! i'm so sorry to you all!

I dont know any body in this situation.. I think brad should get exactly what he deserves.. But it doesnt mean this kid was a bad  kid .. he made a very bad mistake..

An accident is an accident.....but booze involved is NOT an accident.......It's an irresponsible punk whose daddy has money and doesn't sweat the consequences.  Sad thing is, he'll get off.    His parents are big boozers, too.

God Bless John Kowalewski and his family....I am so sorry for your loss.

And you dont hear or see any of these kids making an appology to Mr. K's family. Not that it would matter, they did what they did and hopefully will all live a life of h3ll, and hope someday that it doesnt happen to their father or grandfather....... I hope Mr. K's family gets through this. I know it cant be easy, and hearing all the stuff that goes on and what these kids did, Iam sorry for your loss.

first offense of murder .. better be more than 6 months though  ..

Burton B Thanks for saving the message for Julie. I dont blame her for leaving this nasty site !

It is so sad that a man who was just passing some time peacefully doing what he enjoyed was lost to some reckless, stupidity.

My Dad is roughly Mr. K's age.. I can only imagine the heartbreaking loss his family must be feeling because I know how I would feel if my dad was ripped away from me.

I just cannot wrap my head around WHY they ran away or HOW they could run away... I just wish I could understand what could go on in a persons' mind that would allow them to do something this terrible and seem to be able to go about their life as if all they did was forget to return a library book?!

I posted late last night and still hold true to what I said...BRAD IS A GOOD PERSON. HE MADE A MISTAKE. He has NEVER done anything even remotely close to breaking the law and I know being 21 years old that I would be mentallly freaking out, good bye to the boat, car, apartment that he pays for HIMSELF. Soo to the person who listed all of tHe propertys his PARENTS own, get a life, you know nothing. The thompson road house, is his parents house, they have a time share camp in the thousand islands and do NOT have a camp on oneida lake or in florida. you just are old and miserable and want to make everything about money probably because you dont have any. Im sure Brad is disgusted at himself as are the other friends on the boat. They are great kids who made a mistake and WILL pay for it for the rest of their lives. The links to the pictures are absolutely ridiculous, so what? Girls dressing up for Halloween making silly poses? Most of those people in those pictures dont even live in ny. One of the links was from a girl in Tampa who never comes home and the other a girl @ school in Buffalo!! Were you all never young? You never made mistakes? What if that was YOUR friends and/or children in the boating accident? I bet you all wouldnt be saying most of the things being said. So Shame on YOU for saying brad deserves the death sentance. You dont even know him. the REAL him. you know the mistake he made. I am friends with these guys/girls on the boat and will continue to be there for them because we all understand the drinking situations because we went through the tragedy of the kaitlin kozlowski/danielle breman accident. We were friends with these girls and know the consequences these accidents reep. So before you call Brad a drug addict, excessive gambler, alcoholic, spoiled wild child...just know what youre talking about. NONE of that is true about him. Nothing has even come out about him being drunk yet so take it easy until something comes up. Yes, he left a man at the scene of an accident, post stuff about that not about what his propertys his parents own and what the girls dress like on halloween.

They never thought they would get caught or they thought less penalty on them with out a BWI. Bad parenting I think. Well at least I would not bring my kids up to run from anything.  I just hope that there will be justice. No one cared enough about Mr. K, they just took off...... plain as that. No remorse, no conern only about how staying would affect their own lives, not about this poor man who was enjoying life, they all need to be sentenced maybe if they go to jail they all will sober up ! and realize what they have done...... nothing left to say and no matter what i say it doesnt change Mr. K's life  at all

EVERYONE on that boat should get some kind of punishment........THEY ALL LEFT THE SCENE......not just the driver.  No matter WHAT the circumstances were!

a dear friend,
I was young yes, I am 48 .. and GUESS WHAT I NEVER KILLED ANYONE, AND NEITHER HAVE MY SON OR DAUGHTER WHO ARE YOU AGES, YOU PIECE OF WORTHLESS GARGAGE !

AND YES BRAD LEFT THE SCENE, BECAUSE HE WAS UPSET THAT HE KILLED SOMEONE, OH IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH HAVING A BEER OR TWO OR THREE OR TWENTY-NINE.

thank you, a friend, thats exactly the point I was trying to get across, I appologize if I said the wrong things earlier and offended some people, but A friend captures my feelings pefectly

the two of these must know each other

To a Freind ::::: you need to join all your buddies in Rehab. They all have drinking problems. IF these kids were good then they should of not ran, they were thinking of themselves WRONG ANSWER in this case. AND do ya really think he was not drunk ???? Stop hiding the truth, he killed a man and ran. BOTTOM LINE !!!!!!!!!!!!! STOP MAKING EXCUSES no one wants to hear them.

AN ACCIDENT .. WE THOUGHT YOU HAD TO GO BACK TO MAKING FRIES OR WAS IT HOT AND TASTY APPLE PIES.  

YOU LIED TO US?   YOU SAID YOU LEFT? .. ARE WE SURPRISED AN ACCIDENT LIED?    WOULD A FRIEND?   OR BRAD ? OR POOR LITTLE danielle breman ?

Oh suprise suprise, more jumping to conclusions right? So were using FACTS, why dont you try

OR a friend and an accident ARE THE SAME PERSON?

OR WORKING THE SAME SHIFT AT BURGER KING AGAIN TODAY.

AND NO I DON'T WANT TO SUPER SIZE THAT YOU TWIT !

HEY A FRIEND .. GO SOBER UP

Besides, you don't leave the scene when you accidentally kill/injure someone!!  You FREAK OUT and call the cops!!  Or, at least any NORMAL person would!

I HAVE A CON CALL AT 4 KELLYAC .. TAKE CARE AND WATCH OUT FOR ALL THESE DRUNKEN 21 YEAR OLD INNOCENT ADULTS, OOPS, SORRY KIDS WHO KILLED, OOPS SORRY, DROVE, OOPS SORRY, BUMPED THEIR BOAT INTO A KINDLY OLD GENTLEMAN, ONLY TO HAVE HIM DIE AND UPSET THEIR PLANS FOR A PARTY THIS WEEKEND AND A CAREER WORKING AT SUBWAY AFTER THEIR 1ST MARRIAGES FELL APART BECAUSE THE COURTS REMOVED THEIR CHILDREN FROM THEIR HOMES BECAUSE OF DRUG ABUSE IN THE HOME.

I wonder if we could bottle up all of this emotion and direct towards the people who could make a difference (law & court officials) if they would grasp just how sick we are of loosing innocent lives for the sake of a few drinks & a good time?

it just doesnt stop.. u people are relentless...  I think i understand what people are saying.. U make a mistake in life u need to be hung??? Every kid is a drunk???
Brad will pay for his mistake.. and no it will not bring back Mr K.. My prayers are with the family ...

I have done my share of partying and you know what ? I still do. I dont get loaded and drive home in a car or back to a Marina with 6 of my friends. I dont know this Brad, but if I was his friends I would be upset that he drove all of his friends drunk !! That shows a lot of responsibilty. Obviously he never learned a lesson from the boating accident on skaneatles lake or from that girl that got killed when he was in high school. I would never put any of my friends lives in danger and other people on the lake or on the road. He may of thought he was fine, but was he really ? Did any of the other kids say anything to him ? was anyone else sober enough to drive ? What is that saying ,friends dont let friends drive drunk ? some friends

How wonderful of you to stick up for your fantastic friends ;-) Now since you all were so heartbroken by the Danielle Breman/Kaitlin Kozlowski incident as you state.. WHY THE H*** would you stick up for your 'friends' who just repeated history?? If you suffer the loss due to drunk driving.. you then in turn continue this behavior.. how many more friends do you want to end up dead.. only to stick up for the driver in the end?? Get your head out of your a*s!
--I am friends with these guys/girls on the boat and will continue to be there for them because we all understand the drinking situations because we went through the tragedy of the kaitlin kozlowski/danielle breman accident. We were friends with these girls and know the consequences these accidents reep.---Obviously you dont.. because this poor man wouldnt be dead as a result if you all had. Maybe.. this isnt just a friend of brads... maybe it is a fellow person on the boat trying to get people to feel sorry for poor little brad and the rest of the people on the boat. So come on smart one.. if you 'friends' know so much about the situation and we are all so wrong with putting our opinions here,. why not enlighten us, and tell us once and for all to get the TRUTH.. who were the people on the boat.. since you claim to know them ALL..

THE FAMILY OF THE DECEASED DOESN'T NEED ANY OF THIS! PLEASE STOP!!

There was a lot more than getting dressed up for Halloween in those pictures.  I see bongs, blunts, people gettign high and underage drinking.

I've turned off posting to this blog. I'm sorry, but things have gotten too nasty.

Shaun
9wsyr.com Web Producer