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Something to Stop and Think About

Posted by Christie Casciano - We recently got a call from a Bridgeport mom, very upset with the way drivers are speeding through her normally quiet street.   When we followed up with a phone call to Cicero's Police chief, he was hardly surprised. He hears it all the time.  Traffic troubles top Chief Joe Snell's list of neighborhood complaints for in the rapidly growing suburb of Onondaga County.  Connecting developments are sprouting up, and drivers are speeding through them to get to work, shopping centers and schools in a hurry. 

The chief says two weeks ago at a Bridgeport community meeting, traffic was by far the number one complaint.  He heard the same complaint we heard; too many speeders and not enough stop signs in Bridgeport's Val park development, off of Route 31.  All it took was a drive around the neighborhood to convince the chief, neighbors may be right.  Val Park is an older, established neighborhood with many young families.  Without stop signs, long streets like Rinaldo Blvd. and Areopagitica Avenue do, at times, turn into mini-race tracks.  We talked to a number of families who are hoping to see stop signs sprout up soon.  Watch for our Streets of Speed story  to air Wednesday October 17th, on The Morning News.

As we'll explain in our Streets of Speed report, not everyone who asks for a stop sign will get one.  There is, of course, a formal process.  The first step is to make your request.  This initiation goes out to all Cicero neighborhoods. Right now, stop signs are on the chief's radar and he's asking for input. 

If you live in a Cicero development where you think a stop sign can help keep you and children safe, you can send an e-mail to: Neighborhoodwatch@ciceropd.us.   We're here for you too. If speeders are putting your family at risk, you can send us an e-mail; Yourstories@9WSYR.com  and we'll check out your concerns. 

Published Tuesday, October 16, 2007 9:12 AM by Christie Casciano
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d hotte said:

more stop signs plus police speed traps
October 16, 2007 6:36 PM
 

facefurny said:

I doubt STOP signs are going to do all that much.  Poor driving habits are almost universal.  You might get some small improvement, but these days, drivers appear to think that traffic regulations are just suggestions.

Having traveled all over the U.S., and several European countries, I can say that bad driving is a universal affliction.  the only thing that changes are the specific bad habits.  Here in Central NY, the inability of people to comprehend the word "STOP" is amazing, and apparently, most driver are color blind, because failing to stop before turning on a red light is the second largest skill we have acquired.

Here's a couple of things to stop and think about.  

1. In a collision between a car and a pedestrian, the average auto has a 20:1 weight advantage, and a 40:1 speed advantage.  In a collision with a bicyclist, it's a little lower, but they are a better target sitting up high like that....sort of like putting a Pop Warner football team up against the Buffalo Bills ... wait, maybe that's a bad analogy...

2. In a collision between two vehicles, the only winners are the body shops and personal injury lawyers. Why make money for someone else just to save a few minutes?

3.  Just because your speedometer goes up to 100 mph doesn't mean you should go that fast.
October 17, 2007 11:42 AM
 

amarie319 said:

Stop signs won't do any good if people just roll through them anyways. It seems that certain people feel they are beyond the law. I saw our town counselman Jim Corl driving up 81 yesterday talking on his cell phone. Maybe he shouldn't have vanity plates if he doesn't want to be noticed. If he's such a hotshot lawyer he should be able to afford a bluetooth!
October 17, 2007 12:10 PM
 

jon ch said:

there you go again,FUNNYFACE, ;quoteing stae and government surveys; these disrepectful drivers shoulkd be penalized double , because respectable citizens with integrity and honor ,working hard to live in nice homes and suburbs are being violated.  a stop sign represents a physical deterrent and in my neighborhood in dewitt, violators are swept up like the tripe that they are . twon of my cats were killed by non-residents; i know the facts and the truths and there not just in surveys, stop signs are definetly help. facefurny, i dont know what agency you represent, im prud to say i represent, integrity character and honor. sometimes,furny, the truth can be painful for programmed people like  yourself.
October 17, 2007 4:00 PM
 

facefurny said:

jon,

What state and government survey did I quote?  Did I, anywhere, condone bad driving?  Did I say the signs would be useless?

The average person weighs about 160-170 pounds, the average car about 3200 pounds - that's math - 20:1.  The average person walks at about 2 mph, the average car can easily go 80 mph (and do, if you travel the Thruway) - again, that's math - 40:1.  There's no survey there.

As far as the illiteracy and colo-blindness of drivers, it's based on personal observation - no statistics or government database involved.  BTW, STOP signs are regulatory restrictions.  Unless you put them in the middle of the road, they offer no physical barrier whatsoever.  I'm happy for you that the local police enforce the laws.

Now, as to my "programming," I challenge you to show how my thoughtful responses and opinions are representative of anyone's "brainwashing."  In contrast, your responses are always bordeline abusive and denigrating, sound like the old rhetoric of the 1950's against the "Red horde", and illustrat your inability to think through a topic.  That, my friend, is "programming."
October 18, 2007 9:57 AM
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